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Totally understand Pyros message.
I don't think Looed threatened Pyro as he thinks, more so that the company will defend where necessary. Pinch of salt needed guys, but lets not turn on each other. Transparency works both ways, and unless anyone is prepared to do what others have not we are at a stalemate. Its sad but true and the boat has left the dock.
Its down to each and their own to say what they like, but being shot down for being an investor here is not the way to resolve this interim. We all make mistakes. Shame
Thombola, is your head spinnimg like pyro’s ..?
Looed’s post was hypothetically written unless I am losing the plot now, “what if” read the posts.! pyro’s does not come across like it is sharing info for the better good of real share holders, well thats the way I read it anyway.
Coggy, very very funny, the hulk was good , but the colin pritchard nailed me, hopefully your great posts will calm him down. what a Sunday its turned out to be .
Looed is probably more thick skinned than you realise, The American way is not easy to stump.
I don't think for one minute anyone expected to be here as we are, but thats life.
Pyro - no need for all that, way over the top. Looed has done/is doing such a good job and we all need him to continue.
Pyro, yes we have met and quaffed together. I've bought your hooky Firesticks and we've shared many a laugh on here over the years. However, I feel your posting like John Wayne with all guns blazing may be enough to make Looed shut up shop and throw away the key. Any misunderstanding on either part will be difficult to negotiate peacfully, as I think you're further apart than Putin and Zelensky.
Never mind, you've provided some light entertainment on a dull Sunday afternoon. Don't get too stressed out pyro, or your retirement wont be as long as you wish lol.
By the way, does Colin Pritchard from Cardiff know Ronnie Pickering by any chance?
https://youtu.be/r0dcv6GKNNw?si=Mot3guWCFI5NqhZf
Pyro,
You’ve been threatened to have your personal info released?
And no one is totally aghast at this?
Seriously?
Whose side?
Pyrotech,
I read your posts , the stand out was you saying the info you have could be damaging to our company, you also asked for proof of who we are ( to your own private pyro email ) now forgive me here but Zaza is a share holder, nothing stopped him from being on the wrong side ..!
If your a gen share holder why didn’t you simply put you have files and if needed or wanting shared you can pass over to say the frontera group from II..? I have shared my personal info with this “group” not a single person like yourself. It just come across ( to me personally ) as weird the way you posted it.
Looed’s post in no way came across as threatening to me, it had dark humour in it if am being honest, something tabs has lacked for a while now.
If your on the real share holders side, then offer any info up differently written way, if you like a tipple, get yourself one and chill out, to call someone a pr@ck is not so nice , over the top for myself personally.
This mail is not written to rub you up again so please don’t take it that way, it seems more an more holders are getting frustrated / angry , why?? When now of all these years passed we actually seem like we are on the final run.
It’s Sunday, my advise to you all, is sing a great hymn along with me now, you know how it goes, pyro, if your a proper welshman, this will be boomed out greatly.
All things bright and beautiful, all companies great and SMALL
GLA real holders
Although i think what i do of looed, and i am absolutely fuming with him/ her
here are facts
He/ she appeared on here 2019 and said not posted here before.
However did join the shareholder group and did take part in running the financing of the translation services that allowed us to gain info on recordings etc.
So i would suggest that he/she is a shareholder but somehow has direct communications with company.
That has not always been the case as tried contacting Zaza early on with little success.
I think that we will find that Looed is real and probably genuine, so although i feel he is a right xxxxx for way he spoke to me and in my opinion an idiot for not seeing that i was asking questions to ensure we protect the company regarding the already open file sharing, i believe that he is probably your best option for future information.
Ironically i think those files may have been of best use to our sleuths.
Anyway i have no time for Looed now, but to remain open and honest. having gone thru his history, although at times its strange as in different to most shareholders on LSE, it appears that he is genuine.
I would leave him alone now and not let my post open a can of worms as he may be your best hope for next few months.
My files are there and kept in case we need them in future.
Open and honest guys, is the only way. Enough smoke and mirrors with the company
My word I do believe Pyro is not to happy today.
Its not that Coggy, but by threatening my identity and address he is threatening my children who live here. I will not be threatened by anyone. I have probably seen and done things that he could not imagine in his worst nightmare. 35 years of seeing the unseeable so i am not scared of much these days. I have nearly died 3 times and get respected for what i have done in the real world. You know that i share all my FRR stuff and have for years. A few of us having a few pints at the meetings and then sharing with those who could not attend. Nothing sinister and if i am honest i found the other shareholders really pleasant people. All sharing info with a common goal. No smoke and mirrors with me. I told Looed early this week when i first wanted someone to look at mp3, that he did not need to share info about himself. I asked in case he wanted to share, in an open way. No accusations, no nastiness or games. I asked openly, if he wanted to share. My files were shared years ago when company was trading. The links were in my chat files and anyone had access. I realised that last weekend when adding files for a charity even for sharing. So i decided to try to contact Looed, as i personally think he either is connected to FRR or is on a intimate communication line to them. I just wanted him to check the meeting audio to ensure nothing bad in it. I mean we all heard it for real and most listened to recording back at the time and appreciated it. Its no smoking gun!!! Could YA use something, i am not 100% sure. Just as in 2019 Looed posted that he was unsure if something was even 1% accurate that he posted and shared. So even our astute looed is not always playing on a playing field that may or may not cause issues for FRR. I stopped the recording from being downloaded so that it could no longer be shared by others i also blocked my link so the whole folder could only be accessed by people who sent details who they are. Is there any thing that would be used in court against the company? God knows. access to old material which we could jointly use to investigate the likelihood of FRR being sold and having value we all hope for, is now blocked just because one person decided not to listen to it and decide if okay to share or best not too. I suspect it would be fine but did the prudent thing in trying to get a person who appears to have direct contact with FRR, to say for sure. That link has been shared openly for over 5 years and all i have done is requested it to be checked . 300 times that was accessed the week after the meeting alone. People here have requested access in last 24 hours but right now i am not sure if i can or not. Im not going to turn green Coggy, but at least now i know that my family are at risk due to looed rather than wondering if they are. I now know that my details are out there rather than guessing
I am no longer posting here after this
Few really thick people on here - i was asking you in case it was damming - fool
After trying to contact you before posting the link that was available to all shareholders before, i wanted just to check with you if re-sharing info again was wrong time. Is what Zaza saying in a meeting Damming in any way? I doubt it but thought id ask you first. You shot me down instead. I then ensured only people who i knew were genuine shareholders were able to get the info, the link only works if include their email.
So no one had access openly, but instead of coming here saying something normal such as " Best not to share it at this time just in case" you come on with threats.
Now, many people on here, know me. They met me when i attended the meetings and on behalf of shareholders i attended and recorded for those unable to attend. That is the extent of your smoking gun.
I have always been open and honest. Not hiding my identity behind a keyboard.
Your obviously not as bright as some on here think you are, no one was purposely giving information out to hurt the company.
I will say it again so your stupidity and huge ego can take it in.
It is all information that has been in public domain and seen or heard by shareholders previously.
Unfortunately - i gave you too much credability and decided to check with you incase anything YA etc could use. The plan was for you to check it first. Just to make sure as i believed your either involved in company or in direct communication. But your big EGO got in the way again. Your really are quite thick. I think your a wolf in sheeps clothing. The last person who acted as the friend bringing communication from the company turned out to be a con man. Or so we are led to believe at this stage. Just so you can see just how stupid you are, i am sure you have checked the link yourself. Did you get access? I am absolutely fuming that you have made out that i intended harm to the company. I am even more angry that it was you i was reaching out to before releasing anything, to get your thoughts. Did you attend any shareholder meetings, as i attended all and can not place you. You came on here after the company delisted.
As for giving out my name and address
Don't you ever threaten me you prick. Who the hell do you think you are. You may be a bully but come and try bullying me. You picked the wrong guy
Colin Pritchard from Cardiff - i am not hiding my identity from anyone. Your threat is now neutralised. I am a genuine shareholder who has attempted to help other shareholders since invested in 2014. Next time i ask someone to check if anything in my files that needs checking before release, i will chose someone with more than one brain cell. People hope they can trust you and your the last straw they clutch too. Perhaps it would be nice to let them know who you are?
Wow, Phil, you guess and "see" a lot! 😉
That it came up in the ZM trial about a big investor I think at best it was just an Investor that would commit once a new licence agreement was reached. That would only make sense since they like SN, etc wouldn't want to risk money on a non starter. If SN etc made it out to be more then they were probably over egging it.
So now we are down to the crunch soon it appears of whether the company will be wound up and I assume the data sold off or SN, etc digs into their pocket and pays off Mordant to avoid such and take a gamble in doing so.
I'm going to guess again that SN/FRR have been hoping to get in someone else to stump up to invest to pay of the debts rather than themselves are are likely coming up empty as of course no one wants to do that as they don't.
That leaves the court cases and possibly the hope that seeing most of them off in one form or another will allow the GOGC to give them another license. Even if the debt claims have not fully been resolved then going through court cases may show that the courts have dealt with them even if some of the claims remain.
The winding up petition though I think it looks like SN, etc may have to either dig into their pocket or let the company be wound up. I don't see us getting much return for it being wound up in comparison to the field being developed. It all depends who is prepared to dig into their pocket to gamble to see that realised. I don't see it as such a big gamble but then again it's not my money. So just a couple more months or so to wait to find out I assume.
My guess with all of this is that SN/FRR have been kicking the can down the road in the hope of their situation improving. That SN, etc. don't want to put anymore of their money into something where a return is not assured to pay off the debs because of the GG/Licence agreement. I can't see any other explanation for it as the obvious thing is to get the debts out the way and get the licence extended.
Obviously there are no other investors prepared to do the same or we would have likewise gotten rid of these debts/court cases that are holding everything up and be motoring along now with a nice big developed field pulling in millions.
Maybe the last court case will be ours , hopefully not. GLA
5 years stuck in the dark and kicked out of AIM without warning.
IG paid out shorters boasting about success while investors
lived under stress. What a mess.
Brokers turn a blind eye without concern why clients ask why?
The weak get caught . The rich know how to buy.
Foggy
I am really lucky to be alive, and silently suffered for FOUR long years.
I don’t believe SN for minute
Why for following reason
SN appointed HOPE as director,
That day share price went north 100%
May be Hope did lot of damage to the company,
He has lot of influence in the city.
SN did not manage him,SN &Zz tried to screw him.
What can stop we getting nailed to the cross.
Think your right, Av18r. Just glanced at his previous posts. Nearly all very aggressive and nasty. Best ignored.
I think its replaced the 'T' with an 'X'
Prax, think yourself lucky. The rest of us have had to wait five years.
How about a conf / Skype call with SN and a SH select group - Q&A ?
Minutes can then be fed to all SHs
Would SN agree to this ? I
That would be a nice Christmas present jv123, I second that
Maybe all shareholders show show solidarity here and give the message to the company that we want direct comms.
Let them read that if they monitor this board.
Zaza milked / trapped all of us by meeting in London and tellling LIES & f…d all on 24th of Dec.
I have ,last 4years ,every day questioned myself
why did he select that day/date.
I don’t believe That bas ..d did all this without the approval of SN?
Therefore SN talking via Loo do not give any HOPE