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Seems that its not just the Easter eggs that are hollow this year

Looed

I tried to reach out a week before trying to find out if you had a legal background or were anything to do with the company.

You know that as you shot me down for that too. Whether FRR gives anything back to shareholders has already been decided. Whether people know of the latest court case saga or not will not change the outcome. If there is huge resources SN will fight for it and get the money to save it. If SN and hope want to share the spoils with us then they will, if not then they will find a way to keep for themselves.

The info i had would help those who have ability to check what value we actually have. How much is talk and how much is proved.

Zaza appears to have misplaced the truth on a lot of stuff. The pdf's with the shareholder meeting voice recording was a useful tool to put that pieces of the puzzle together.

If over a week ago you had been more forthcoming, rather than obnoxious. I would have known if there was any danger was in that recording ( Something thats been open for download for 5 years. )

I was obviously being over cautious, by asking you .

Dark secrets referred to YA preselling our shares and getting payments. FFS its not really a dark secret is it? Everyone here knows it happened and talked about.

The issue is, the fact Zaza said it - would that be an issue? Thats all you needed to answer yes or no.

I was also happy for you or anyone else to look at it just in case something in that meeting could cause issues.

As for your comment suggesting the company would find me rather than you, for what? The only things i have is paperwork provided by FRR and a recording of a shareholder meeting with info from the head of the company at the time - Zaza. Legitimate.

Lifeishard any information from the past could be damaging to the company. Anything they ever published. Anything they ever said. If it can be proved it was said that is.

All Looed had to do was ask for access and just check nothing in there. I tried my best to highlight that i need someone with a legal or company background just to check it before reopening the link. If someone better qualified they could too. Looed appeared to have contact with someone in FRR so he could even have shared link with them and asked me to open it for them.

i reiterate this was not shared this week, it was shared and remained open for 5 years. It was linked and restricted this week when i noticed still open and after Looed reported about YA payments not being done. The link is protected from download , but not for last 5 years. If what Zaza said in that meeting was fact then that recording is 100% safe for anyone. What i can not tell is if its fact or not. Is it a dark secret ya could use

When i first tried to find out, politely your connection - you were rude - fact

If you attended that meeting you could say now if its dangerous or not as people still try to download now. is there a reason to stop them? Thats all i wanted to know. I doubt it

Although i think what i do of looed, and i am absolutely fuming with him/ her

here are facts

He/ she appeared on here 2019 and said not posted here before.

However did join the shareholder group and did take part in running the financing of the translation services that allowed us to gain info on recordings etc.

So i would suggest that he/she is a shareholder but somehow has direct communications with company.

That has not always been the case as tried contacting Zaza early on with little success.

I think that we will find that Looed is real and probably genuine, so although i feel he is a right xxxxx for way he spoke to me and in my opinion an idiot for not seeing that i was asking questions to ensure we protect the company regarding the already open file sharing, i believe that he is probably your best option for future information.

Ironically i think those files may have been of best use to our sleuths.

Anyway i have no time for Looed now, but to remain open and honest. having gone thru his history, although at times its strange as in different to most shareholders on LSE, it appears that he is genuine.

I would leave him alone now and not let my post open a can of worms as he may be your best hope for next few months.

My files are there and kept in case we need them in future.

Open and honest guys, is the only way. Enough smoke and mirrors with the company

Its not that Coggy, but by threatening my identity and address he is threatening my children who live here. I will not be threatened by anyone. I have probably seen and done things that he could not imagine in his worst nightmare. 35 years of seeing the unseeable so i am not scared of much these days. I have nearly died 3 times and get respected for what i have done in the real world. You know that i share all my FRR stuff and have for years. A few of us having a few pints at the meetings and then sharing with those who could not attend. Nothing sinister and if i am honest i found the other shareholders really pleasant people. All sharing info with a common goal. No smoke and mirrors with me. I told Looed early this week when i first wanted someone to look at mp3, that he did not need to share info about himself. I asked in case he wanted to share, in an open way. No accusations, no nastiness or games. I asked openly, if he wanted to share. My files were shared years ago when company was trading. The links were in my chat files and anyone had access. I realised that last weekend when adding files for a charity even for sharing. So i decided to try to contact Looed, as i personally think he either is connected to FRR or is on a intimate communication line to them. I just wanted him to check the meeting audio to ensure nothing bad in it. I mean we all heard it for real and most listened to recording back at the time and appreciated it. Its no smoking gun!!! Could YA use something, i am not 100% sure. Just as in 2019 Looed posted that he was unsure if something was even 1% accurate that he posted and shared. So even our astute looed is not always playing on a playing field that may or may not cause issues for FRR. I stopped the recording from being downloaded so that it could no longer be shared by others i also blocked my link so the whole folder could only be accessed by people who sent details who they are. Is there any thing that would be used in court against the company? God knows. access to old material which we could jointly use to investigate the likelihood of FRR being sold and having value we all hope for, is now blocked just because one person decided not to listen to it and decide if okay to share or best not too. I suspect it would be fine but did the prudent thing in trying to get a person who appears to have direct contact with FRR, to say for sure. That link has been shared openly for over 5 years and all i have done is requested it to be checked . 300 times that was accessed the week after the meeting alone. People here have requested access in last 24 hours but right now i am not sure if i can or not. Im not going to turn green Coggy, but at least now i know that my family are at risk due to looed rather than wondering if they are. I now know that my details are out there rather than guessing

I am no longer posting here after this

Few really thick people on here - i was asking you in case it was damming - fool

After trying to contact you before posting the link that was available to all shareholders before, i wanted just to check with you if re-sharing info again was wrong time. Is what Zaza saying in a meeting Damming in any way? I doubt it but thought id ask you first. You shot me down instead. I then ensured only people who i knew were genuine shareholders were able to get the info, the link only works if include their email.

So no one had access openly, but instead of coming here saying something normal such as " Best not to share it at this time just in case" you come on with threats.

Now, many people on here, know me. They met me when i attended the meetings and on behalf of shareholders i attended and recorded for those unable to attend. That is the extent of your smoking gun.

I have always been open and honest. Not hiding my identity behind a keyboard.

Your obviously not as bright as some on here think you are, no one was purposely giving information out to hurt the company.

I will say it again so your stupidity and huge ego can take it in.

It is all information that has been in public domain and seen or heard by shareholders previously.

Unfortunately - i gave you too much credability and decided to check with you incase anything YA etc could use. The plan was for you to check it first. Just to make sure as i believed your either involved in company or in direct communication. But your big EGO got in the way again. Your really are quite thick. I think your a wolf in sheeps clothing. The last person who acted as the friend bringing communication from the company turned out to be a con man. Or so we are led to believe at this stage. Just so you can see just how stupid you are, i am sure you have checked the link yourself. Did you get access? I am absolutely fuming that you have made out that i intended harm to the company. I am even more angry that it was you i was reaching out to before releasing anything, to get your thoughts. Did you attend any shareholder meetings, as i attended all and can not place you. You came on here after the company delisted.

As for giving out my name and address

Don't you ever threaten me you prick. Who the hell do you think you are. You may be a bully but come and try bullying me. You picked the wrong guy

Colin Pritchard from Cardiff - i am not hiding my identity from anyone. Your threat is now neutralised. I am a genuine shareholder who has attempted to help other shareholders since invested in 2014. Next time i ask someone to check if anything in my files that needs checking before release, i will chose someone with more than one brain cell. People hope they can trust you and your the last straw they clutch too. Perhaps it would be nice to let them know who you are?

Im sorry you took my post wrong

I did say i respect if you do not want to answer

I am just open and honest so i ask the question in an open honest way, no sly questions to try to work or catch someone out. i wondered something so i asked it? as far as i am concerned that is the correct way to do things.

You have done a lot and found a lot out and i can only speak for us on here, but i believe for the company too.

Many shareholders are left holding the straws and some had big money invested. As a shareholder and with the prospect of losing all their cash that leads them looking for glimmers of light. We do not want to get too excited and the only information we get is from you. We have nothing from those who should be informing us - like SN. Your probably a topic of conversation because of what you have done for us, but people are nervous. i would suggest if this comes good, and we all meet up for a drink you will be the most popular person and have a line of drinks at the bar.

I am nervous as i started the phrase " you do not fight over an empty box" what if i am wrong? Did i inadvertently push people one way or another. i trusted Zaza too.

keep up the good work, but i hope you appreciate honest open questions rather than sly comments. I always think upfront is best.

I have complete confidence that you are genuine and keeping us informed.

Can i be up front and open, by asking are you a normal shareholder or if you have had or do have a connection with the company other than just holding shares.. I respect fully if you come back and say you have no need to answer or do not wish too. I just think it makes some sense if you have a direct connection somehow. I certainly want to keep this door open.

What is your thoughts if Frr is waiting for a deal to come in to enable them to pay off debts? My worry is that it is a very weak pathway and has many pitfalls? What is your thoughts on a deal with a major 1. imminent (3 months) 2. soon ( 3 to 6 months or 3. one day, (6 months too 6 years) with your insights are we looking at a positive end game or are we as far away as we were on day we delisted?

We all know Russia has had its influence in Georgia and this has also held us back and in my opinion the offers of a JV

or buyout.

Just when that looks likely to be less of influence, due to unpopular Ukraine war, we get Azerbaijan and Armenia playing up. I suspect this is linked to Russia in the back ground.

This could be a nothing issue or have widespread regional instability.

I would like to see FRR done and dusted and money in my account as this world is seriously messed up.

Remember , YA helped to slow the progress of the company.

Forward selling etc. They lend money and then they are like a greed fed monster looking to not only get their money back but absolutely smash profits by forward selling and even shorting stock. So they lend money to start a company but will effectively destroy that company if they can profit from it.

i think they will get something back if they are patient and let the company get back to doing business, What they are doing is slowing the start back date and so slowing payback date for all.

I suspect like hope was originally, they would like to take the asset and make millions for their investors.

Speaking to Ukrainians who have links to Georgia, they suggest that Georgia is very much at the mercy of Russia. The Country would be unable to defend itself. The Govt is pro Russian but the worst part is that Russians have been moving into Georgia so that when voting happens in future, the population will be largely Russian. Tis is exactly what Russia does, it manipulation on a huge scale. They fix the vote by increasing the voters in their favour. This makes it very difficult for us to sell to a Western Country. Things change, especially if Ukraine beats Russia and Putin removed. This Ukrainian has lots of family in Russia. They blame the Ukrainians for their mortgage problems and hardship and will not believe my friend that Russia is at fault. Russians are totally brainwashed and fed what govt wants them to believe. Same is starting to happen in Georgia.

The U.S. has warned Georgia of economic sanctions if it resumes direct flights to Russia, Georgian media outlet Accent News reported on May 10.

Hi all
Anyone remember the total that we owe hope
Just doing some calculations, theoretically, if due to mis givings, Zaza had his 1b shares given to hope, how much it would be worth.
Just £50m if we got 5p a share
Also can a director lose shares for miss management / corruption / attempted theft?

Well if it was 5p at the time
I would suggest we more shares now but i do not think more than double.
Plus i would think we did more exploration and we played with UD2 since too.
So i think somewhere north of 2.5p perhaps significantly, unless of course the payment first goes to hope and SN and other creditors then remainder for shares.
I am just smiling as we seem to be coming out of the other side now and that looked unlikely a year or so back

Hope was trying to push a deal for the company years back.
Does anyone remember the price thought to be offered if it had gone ahead, it was a sly takeover attempt.

What i see, Hope will want to guarantee his money back, he will not want to wait years.
I feel that that takeover ( who ever it was to be) is what will happen.
Just feels more likely and i feel that is how these cases are being dropped, it was a case of no one gets anything at one stage and now i feel they found a way ahead for all

I think 500 frr shares to 1 BP share would see me break even
100 frr to 1 BP would be very acceptable.

I was not aware of this, add me please if it exists

Onedayrodney
Thats rather reassuring, thank you

I agree some progress and unlikely to relist.
However as a private company we are more in the dark than when it was listed.
At times then we were kept like mushrooms in the dark.
This is not over yet and profit for us is still out of reach, just a little closer.

We do not know if they intend to screw us over, SH obviously thinks he can make some serious money , but how?

Value to sell
We have seen many *** packet estimates including in billions for what we hold, we all agree you do not fight over an empty box, and fight they have done.
But what is the value, and really that comes down to what some one will pay for it.
The gas and oil ! but how hard to extract and costly? The geopolitical issues?

So selling it may be just a final handshake away or still i pipe dream
The other way Hope etc can make money is extract resources and get paid a high directors fee, like 2m a year. We always then break even so they cash in and we are permanently left waiting.
Then we have a legal argument where potentially they could argue its now a different company or give 90% of the company to a third party company to cover depts and we are left with a miserable 10%.
Like you all i hope BP or Exxon Mobil are waiting on the sidelines to hand over a huge check.
Even then what info do they hold about shareholders to pay out?

Small tentative steps but no singing just yet

Remember when i coined what is now a common phrase "You do not fight over an empty box "

Well i think this proves that as correct.
If there was no value in what resources FRR were sitting on, these vast amounts of money would be mainly written off by liquidating the company. I see a huge effort to rescue the company and that must mean that the value is massively in excess to what they owe.
Which hopefully means that one day we all do okay out of this
Time will tell

Funeral day so no time for silly posts and my dark mood is reflected in post.
I came on here looking for good news on a dark day and the wrath of my mood was released when i got more doom and gloom which really had no substance