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As our resident expert. What is your view? Are we any nearer to pay day?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/10/swedish-left-and-right-stake-claims-to-form-next-government
the same writer says "many suspect the Moderates in particular may not wait long to breach it (the non-co-operation with Sweden Democrats) - the "cordon sanitaire" is starting to fray...."
You don't need a majority Gov't in Sweden - you just have to show that another party can't do it - ie a minority Gov't (like here) - as long as it doesn't include the Greens we should be ok. So, another wait - but with the likelihood of a more positive Gov't supporting us.
Last paragraph, I was amending text and posted in error. It should have said "by a certain date and give it some" not "certand"...
Not sure what will happen with this after that election result. I take what you mean about continuity, but we are approaching five and a half years now and still awaiting a decision on our application. It can't be allowed to continue like this Sooz, no matter what the new make-up of Government. In view of this being a tricky election result, Kurt of course can't be responsible if the dust doesn't settle any time soon, but nor can he be expected to wait until whenever, for this to occur. He must press promptly, in my opinion, because the election is over, and although it was obviously used as a distraction, it shouldn't have been. We still remain without an official indication as to why the Government hasn't acted on our application, or even produced a date for concluding matters, following its receipt of all submissions from all parties many months ago. So the dust may not settle yet, because of this election result, and if it doesn't, Kurt must still plan to go in by a certand give it some. Not potentially wait months for any Swedish post-election jockeying. My thoughts today. Lol.
I wasn't persuaded, very early into his speech he used the word "solutions" and that sent a bit of a chill...
I listened to Jimmie....I've got some sympathy for anti immigration emotions but I
Those are fascinating statistics, Rick...too much for me to type but this one makes me smile:
Best Result (7.7%) for the MP (Green Party )was in Stockholm (where they might know less about nature than in the Northern Parts)
Worst Result (2.6%) in Vasternorreland where they probably know a lot. And another interesting one:
Best for the Left (14%) in Gothenburg and Worst (4%) in Skane County N & E.
Best for the Sweden Democrats (29%) in Skane County N & E and worst in Stockholm (9.8%).
Thanks Rick. So far as our application is concerned the politics shouldn't be a question but we know it has been....I've been thinking that continuity would have been the best thing for us. Kurt can get on to the government with "what about it then" but a new constellation could say what about what...and promise to have a look at that in due course. Well, back to the drawing board for now. And I hope I'm completely wrong.
Suzy. Sorry don't have that info-the list of MPs is for up to the elections. Info gained from the following link if any use. https://electionarium.com/swedish-election-2018-results/
General consensus is that Lofren will go. Sweden Dems should be king makers and whilst unaligned I assume their politics are more to the right than left. Some talk of new elections but I doubt this as someone will find a way to form a gov based on this election. Swedes have similar proportional rep system to Germany and how long did Merkel take to form a coalition?
as predicted (by moi) Greens now have 15 seats instead of 25. But if you look at BBC website;
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-45466174
you will see that the right alliance could easily form a Gov't with the implicit support of Sweden Democrats. No politician would ever refuse power on the grounds of ethics......
Morning Rickmeister..Did the MP have a representative in Jokkmokk, do you know? Thanks.
The Social Dems (Left) had their best result in Norrbotten and for the Mods (Right) it was their worst County. It is clear where the political preference is here despite the overall outcome. Battles yet to come I suspect. There will not be any change of tack re Kallak so far as the County is concerned so it is left with the Government-as yet to be decided-to determine
Actually down 2% in Sweden at the moment. Too much uncertainty for any real action I think...
"Jonas Thulin, head of asset management at Erik Penser Bank in Stockholm, described the outcome as “the most uncertain result we have had in modern times” and said a second election could become a “possible scenario” that investors need to consider."
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-09/sweden-election-too-close-to-call-as-exit-polls-show-dead-heat
swedes currently up to 0.68 virtually no sells...that's about 5.8p?
We’ll soon know... either way, it’s an improvement on what we had?
well, it's bye bye Sami and bye bye Greens then......
The Swedish Democrats have declared that they would work with them as a loose alliance...
they agree..
Beowulf Mining / On Monday / Really Weakened MP!
Today 07:58 IP: YgLAHCXs /
Very interesting that MP is largely out of the picture. One step in the right direction and positive for BEO.
However, what the future government constellation will look like, we can be pleased that MP will be without any major influence to talk about. This is really good for Sweden's and BEO's future. Undoubtedly.
The Alliance is likely to devote Löfven and there are actually two ways to do this. We will then have a new prime minister who forms a government in Sweden.
We'll see how things get and wait a little while all the voices are counted. The political game can begin!
Today we can all be pleased with MP failure in the election. Thanks! :-)
Should we listen to those who know something about poetry, then MP learns to be out of the picture on Wednesday when the election results are complete.
S, V and MP usually drop one or a few mandates on these voices according to TV4 last night.
It's a mandate, so it looks more than good, I think, but everything may happen :-)
On the other hand, seems a bit of a pity on the alliance, which has a recession in the knee again and this time it will not be fun at all.
But, however, that the MP disappears is positive without it being the same
The Moderates will have been longing for power for decades - they are the only party that could work with the Sweden democrats. If they do they will have a massive majority. Can you imagine any politician turning that down? If so, the Greens and the left will have no influence whatsoever.
Many observers therefore see the Moderate party leader, Ulf Kristersson – who on Sunday night called for Löfven to resign – seeking to form a minority centre-right administration, possibly in coalition with the Christian Democrats and with implicit, ad hoc parliamentary support from the Sweden Democrats. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/09/swedish-election-far-right-on-course-for-sizeable-gains-in-vote
… and so are the rest! Sweden will function, just as before! Nothing will be allowed to inhibit German export growth! Enough from me. atb
If they've managed to get 4.3% they're not irrelevant, they only had 6.9% before when they held the balance of power plus the Left. Oh, dear, that's a lot of dust there to settle.
so...who want to work with the Sweden Democrats?
Center left block 40.6% Center right block 40.3% Sweden democrats 17.6%
Sweden, election results (5826/6004 election districts counted): S-S&D: 28.3% M-EPP: 19.8% SD-ECR: 17.6% C-ALDE: 8.6% V-LEFT: 7.9% KD-EPP: 6.4% L-ALDE: 5.5% MP-G/EFA: 4.4%
2150: With 84.5 percent of votes counted, the Social Democrats have 28.3 percent, according to SVT reports, the Moderates 19.8 percent and the Sweden Democrats 17.6 percent.
Go Beowulf!
Sweden Headed for Political Gridlock After Inconclusive Electionweden may face weeks or even months of political gridlock after an inconclusive election result left the biggest Scandinavian economy without a clear candidate to form a government.
Neither the Social Democrat-led coalition of Prime Minister Stefan Lofven nor the opposition Alliance bloc won enough votes to form majority governments.
Sweden is the latest European country in which a populist surge fueled by anti-immigration sentiment is changing the political landscape. Though Lofven has presided over an economic upswing that has fed a rise in employment, Sunday’s vote shows many Swedes were more concerned about tackling a record influx of foreigners after about 600,000 immigrants entered the country over the past five years.
A preliminary count of about 82 percent of electoral districts gave Lofven’s parties 144 seats in the 349-member parliament, and the Alliance 142 seats. The anti-immigration Sweden Democrats, which aren’t part of either bloc, were poised to get about 63 seats, not quite as many as some pre-election polls indicated but significantly better than in 2014.
www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-09-09/sweden-election-too-close-to-call-as-exit-polls-show-dead-heat?srnd=premium-europe