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Fardistanthills good solid input... I imagine that Cytiva are producing pilot batches of lfds purely because all parties are conscious and motivated to doing parallel strands of work to ensure this type of test gets to market as quickly as possible so that it can help get countries and their economies back to normal... yes countries, the demand is on a global scale... let's hope we're the benchmark in the race to unlock the future way of daily life...
Fardistanthills - Lets hope they can be.
That would be one hell of an RNS :-) We can live in hope. Once again, thank you for the very detailed previous post.
Eric - I would think Cytiva are capable of producing pilot batches of lfds. But I do not know if these would be accepted as part of the EUA process.
Absolutely spot on. What a great post which sums up the production of the lfd perfectly imo.
Oh my.
What do you think to this (spoken in the voice of Eddie Hearn).
Saturday night at 10pm in Sir Al's back garden. Televised live on Sky Sports (pay per view only at 24p)
Tag Team Wrestling Match - wearing thongs only.
In the blue corner
Ophidian and RichKen smothered in goose fat (because they are posh)
versus
In the Avacta red corner
EricHorseman and PL75 smothered in chip fat
The winning team gets to condescend all week at their leisure with no questions asked.
Thank you very much for the info and the work digging up the stuff, Fardistanthills.
:0)
They'll be bricking it too, 2 mins due diligence Nd they've invested in a bear flag! Bit embarrassing :)
And whilst I’m on one....
Conifer haven’t been mentioned at all lately they must of known something!!??
Cytiva have done the template for others to manufacture. Fardistanthills explains that they provide the fabric membrane so extra for them on top of template. Cytiva have grown their MC of late on the back of recurring income from templates for tests that others make and this explains how big they have become. Ophidian has signed off but he did say pilot batches will have been made and submitted for Emergency Use Authorisation. (EUA)
Excellent info. Thank you, Fardistanthills.
In that case, it's not an option for Cytiva to have manufactured pilot batches of the completed product, and submitted them for EUA then, in your opinion?
Shame :-(
The role of Cytiva seems to cause some confusion. Are they a manufacturer, just a developer of test papers, one of several manufacturers or what? My understanding is that Cytiva have developed and will be manufacturing the 'paper' - the lateral flow test strip - with BBI then assembling and completing the whole test kit for onward distribution - by Medussa and perhaps others.
Cytiva are specialists in the development and manufacture of test strips. Development and selection of the right assay membrane / test paper for use with a set of reagents - in our case the affimers, etc developed and supplied by Activa - is a highly skilled task and I suspect Cytiva are one of the best.
Anyone who has worked in a UK laboratory will be familiar with Whatman papers and membranes - for chromatography for example. Whatman and Amersham International got taken over by GE Healthcare, and they are both now part of Cytiva. Whatman has a fascinating history. Founded in 1740 in Maidstone by papermaker James Whatman the Elder (1702–1759) the inventor of wove paper and still going strong as an integral part of Cytiva! I am digressing a bit! This gives a good idea of what they get up to :
hTTps://cdn.cytivalifesciences.com/dmm3bwsv3/AssetStream.aspx?mediaformatid=10061&destinationid=10016&assetid=16472
So my guess is that Cytiva will produce all the test strips shipping them to whoever - BBI and potentially others - for what I would call the final assembly, using the Ginolis machines as Canute40 has mentioned:
hTTps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BHBRRhf1fw
I may be wrong of course, but I suspect that Cytiva having done the vital intermediary step of optimising the lateral flow paper will be retained as the sole supplier of these papers - I wouldn't be surprised if Cytiva have their own IPR invested in the assay strip they have selected for Activa. I should think production under single control will be considered essential, in order to achieve product uniformity, assurance and acceptance.
Final assembly of the lfd and packaging with reagent, spit tube, etc is probably the easy bit?
Hope this helps, fdh
Pahoo,
If you read Sir Al's comments I the RNS, you might see where I am coming from.
All the best.
They’re collaborating, I don’t see Sir Al down the factory working a shift, so why should Klaus? Have a look on Cytiva’s website. You’d think they’d mention it.
Ultimately, it doesn’t matter as long as we can get enough partners lined up
If Cytiva manufacture does this make it more acceptable to Trump? Its down as the Avacta/Cytiva test in the Rockefeller Report. So perhaps manufacturing is not important. Cytiva could not manufacture the world need in any case, so other manufacturers are required around the globe. Either way the association with Cytiva is what will matter to Trump for the PR spin that he will want to apply.
How could Cytiva look else where.
https://twitter.com/bbi_solutions/status/1285570937333653504?s=12
It says develop, manufacture and commercialise.
What is there to misunderstand?
Shoot me down if you wish but don't question my reading skills.
The RNS does not say the companies will collaborate to develop and manufacture tests. It says they will collaborate. It then says they will develop and manufacture the tests. This means they will both manufacture the tests, not necessarily on their premises. Avacta is not. This probably implies Cytiva will manufacture the tests it markets under the contract but not say tests for the retail market.
Thanks for pat on the back.
Doze is right
Right is might
I might doze
Ce mark for design or does each factory need to also pass?
Absolutely spot on. Cytiva’s website has no mention of manufacturing. Odd eh? Plenty about development and the manufacturing of components though...
Hope the lord hasn’t embarrassed himself with yet more nonsense paraded as condescending fact.
Cytiva collaborate with Avacta to manufacture does not mean they are manufacturers, it may mean they provide the template to BBI and assist afterall they get a % for every test sold. They will do the same for all other manufacturers appointesd. It is handy if BBI are next door as allows for a physical oversight.
And BBI is in five continents.
All looking good.
All the best.
EnergyS, Cytiva has bases in 40 countries! Yeah.
St
Cytiva HQ just up the road from BBI USA Plant.
Imagine Cytiva board meeting, We need to find a manufacturer. BBI nearest but can’t use them because Avacta going into partnership with them in August.(don’t think so) BBI on Rapid Test consortium
but has stepped back from being main Anti body test manufacturer they probably knew they needed to keep their capacity for Avacta,Cytiva.
Just my thoughts... Hope I’m right.....