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Warthog4, I do hope you have allowed for the adjusted share price under the buy-back scheme?
You cannot do a comparison otherwise.
In any case this share has been an excellent candidate for trading over those years!
Ace-probably why the SP struggles to maintain any momentum-it now stands at almost exactly where it was 10 years ago.
If it had followed the FTSE100 we should now be at around £4.80
Following the mass cull of businesses and return of capital I have always thought AVIVA would be a no growth company. Past growth efforts were always built on acquisitions - Friends Life? Unfortunately the company could never generate organic growth. Cutting back to the UK/Ireland & Canada leaves AVIVA represented in only one growth market, Canada, and Canada has some very competitive domestic insurers. AVIVA appears to be only in the general insurance side in Canada, not Life/Pensions.
Where is the growth to come from? The UK is a very competitive market in the Life/Pensions area and AVIVA Investors has such a poor record of managing the huge funds under management.
AceOfClubs
I have two tranches of Aviva. I bought one tranche last week at 4.23 and sold yesterday at 4.36. As I write they are dropping back and will have a look again if they head back toward the 4.25 mark. Any thoughts on how the weather storms might impact on the share price?
Yep no adrenaline shortage with Aviva ...
I am wondering how many peeps have sell orders at 440-450s :-(
Yep but anytime we get anywhere near 440 the SP breaks wind and falters. Perhaps this flatulence might diminish as we approach ex-div day?
It has been 10 months since we last saw the share price at 440p or higher. It used to be what I considered the fair average for Aviva shares, I always saw the fair range bouncing between 415p and 465p.
The share price absolutely does deserve to be above 440p, Aviva are performing excellent and the dividends are fantastic here.
No idea where the share price is heading but glad it’s at a decent level again.
Apologies taskmaster.
Re "but it's pretty low-level stuff "
But it ISN'T low level. Whilst the BBC et al love to highlight 'high level' swindlers, the cost to the country is far far greater when the masses of this country and now the world, float in to claim benefits or swindle and use the system to better their lot in life at the cost of those working full time to fund them all.
When those claiming were a lower number, the economy could cope, but now with an endless number with shame now gone, and to declare yourself in poverty acceptable more and more are jumping on the bandwagon and ironically because if you work only 20hrs a week you get your rent and council tax fully or almost so paid, you then get thousands a year in universal credits to replace the old working tax credit and child tax credit, you don't need to pay for dental care, nor prescriptions, they get extra help with food, and energy costs, free school uniforms, and transportation costs to school, and have HALF the week off to work cash in hand, sell dope or just have a pleasant life.
Problem is they won't work more hours as their benefits and rent etc are cut pound for pound, so HMG then allow in more imms to fill the jobs shortage, BUT they need a home, education, healthcare and earn little so are a negative cost.
Far better to make those here work full time, and cut benefits to the bone to stop the worlds chancers copying as they rarely come here for our weather.
Whilst many work, time a house is supplied adding to loss of countryside, it would be far more beneficial to ensure that all our own people work, as THEY are here anyway, and are our responsibility not so the worlds flotsam.
' I know someone claiming PIP care and mobility and they walk their two big dogs each day, he’s always washing his car, it’s just totally abused by those who want a free ride.'
CJ39 - have you reported this person ?
When I read 'PIP Claims' I did think it was insurance, but then I read the article and it was quite obvious what the topic was about.
Of course the tabloid are always banging on about benefit cheats, have been for nearly a century. No doubt the system can be abused, but it's pretty low-level stuff compared to, for example, Baroness Mone and other accomplices of our government.
CJ39, wasn't thinking that so no need for the nasty reply.
That's a huge 68% increase for PIP ~ I'm interested to know if Group Critical Illness will be immune ?
It is crazy how much tax we all pay, in the State’s eyes all we are is an income stream and a vote. They keep trying to find new ways to tax us, things like ULEZ, carrier bag tax, police speed camera vans everywhere. If they can find to make more money from us all they’ll find out and exploit it.
The Benefits system is a complete joke, I worked for DWP in the past, it’s a disgrace what is allowed to happen, so many people choose a life on benefits and they aren’t much worse off hard honest working people yet have every day off to do as they please. PIP is also a joke, I know someone claiming PIP care and mobility and they walk their two big dogs each day, he’s always washing his car, it’s just totally abused by those who want a free ride.
Wasn't expecting this strength so far out from the next ex-div date..
Feel some good news is on the way.
What do Pips have to do with Aviva? Bit tenuous but they make up part of the out of control government spending that is being financed by the private sector through corporation tax etc. For over 10 years government debt has risen by over £380m per day! That is £5 per person ffs. When is it going to stop? When the markets refuse to finance the debt and interest rates rise to unsustainable levels - probably year 2 to starmers premiership is my guess.
: ) that is comedy genius. He’s read that claims have increased thinking it’s insurance claims but it’s benefit claims. It kind of sums up a lot about the type of people commenting on these message boards though.
Sorry, I'm at a bit of a loss.
What do personal independance payment (PIP) claims have to do with Aviva? They are a state assessed benefit.
An even better start to today. Capital gain plus excellent divi (i also bought at 4.22)
Bought at 422 the other day. Remarkably it's holding up. The div plus the dream of it being bought at £6 are positives to keep it afloat one would think.
Excellent finish to the day!!
Pike71, and it's only up by 0.1% !! Where would the share prices be if inflation was up by more, heaven forbid ?!!!
Still remember the take-over possibilities of 2023, wonder are they totally dead or simply sleeping ?!!
Draw some comfort from the fact that unlike L&G: Phoenix and The Pru. we don't appear in the Top 20 Fallers.
Bought some at 423 with dividend from POLR
Damn … hang sang in free fall, inflation up , ain’t looking good this week, hopefully new opportunities to top up here and elsewhere (trying to see the positive side of it)