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Just listened to the Rishi Sunak speech.
Government grant for heat pumps are no longer £5,000 they are now £7,500.
It was a no brainer before.
*sure
But sore too
£60k for ten years is £6k a year with zero sell on value cos the battery’s fooked
Exactly, via a subsidy. Without subsidies nobody would be buying EVs, and with subsidies everybody is paying through the nose for them.
I reiterate, if these things weee financially viable they’d be flying out of showrooms on their own.
If you have to subsidise or legislate something, you can be sore it’s a terrible idea.
Somehow I doubt it, when you can get a £60k E-tron for the same price as a ST Focus, via salary sacrifice, I know which one sensible customers are choosing.
You carry on believing the rubbish you want to, whilst others make huge savings whilst carrying on as normal……
OT have a look at what NM and IH are doing elsewhere... (Slide 4). Obviously hedging their bets and it wouldn't surprise me if it outperforms here...
https://firsttin.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/230601-First-Tin-Presentation-June-23.pdf
In any case Nick is hedging his bets...as well as being a NED, he is also NED of Clara Resources (alongside Brian Moller - remember him?), which owns 22.6% of 1SN.
He is of course CEO of DGR Global, which not only owns 6.8% of SOLG but also 12.3% of Clara Resources (.i.e. therefore 2.8% of 1SN)
Finally, Ingo is also the recently appointed CFO of Lifezone Metals, following his stint as CEO of Omicron...
Enjoy the distraction from the tumbleweed here...
Ends.
All the idiots who bought sixty grand milk floats are crying into their green shakes. Hilarious
Fort ….. all we ever got was details to follow
1 trade at 4pm.
We all know what that means. It's the law. Never fails. Oh yes. Sure as eggs is eggs. Sure thing. Is it true? Is the pope Catholic? Does Quady sh+t in the woods?
DBW... do you know (or have we been told) what performance criteria Scott needs to meet to justify those awards. I keep hearing that there was supposed to be somekind of alignment or targets being publicised but I haven't seen anything? Buried in the MD&A somewhere perhaps? If I recall... the options have been granted... end of.
I have no problem with options as long as they are ambitious and performance related
But that's exactly what he's going to do Fort, and despite the fighting talk, there's nothing you or I can do about it.
Aand another one for the bin....
It’s classic mushroom management, keep everyone in the dark and throw s**t at them
Definitely not good enough for my vote. New broom but same old mess
I understand what you are saying Guys,
But we cannot allow Scott and the others to take us for granted. It should be a 2 way street. Right now it's 1 way. They are taking fat salaries while we are left in the dark with an opened SR, decimated SP, with no certainty when or if things will change. I believe that rewards should be earned and I haven't seen what he has done to warrant our unwavering support. Just endless talk, and talk about rocks.
It might have done just about enough to secure his job at next AGM but it certainly hasn't earned those Bonus shares this year that's for sure, so he can give them back. If they think they are going to award more shares next year... then they can properly xxxx off! The days of awarding directors in this company should be over. It's time for them to deliver.
I most certainly won't be voting against Caldwell. He and his supporters are the only people to offer any hope of getting out of this situation - it's just going to take longer than we'd hoped.
Do you think poor people are driving around in twenty year old bangers because they’ve got 60k kicking around for a new merc?
Once they’re good enough and cheap enough, people will willingly buy them but they’re nowhere near and the infrastructure problem hadn’t been solved. How do you charge at home if you live on a terraced row or in a block of flats
And where does your heat pump go? Some people’s houses and radiators have to be adapted including expensive redecoration
All to appease the eco zealots for absolutely no proven reason
Sunak isn’t going for enough delaying five years; it’s like Josef Fritzl giving his captor an egg sandwich after five days
Scrap the whole lunacy!
Agree Italian
We don’t want another change at the top right now
He was always going to need time to unwind some of the damage , especially that done during DC’s short tenure
Come on guys, "things" are not clear only to the extent that we are dealing with a South American government particularly at the wrong time, and with possible investors who have not yet felt the urgency of buying us.
It has become clear by now that NM thought he could sell it but did not do the right things and in fact alienated stakeholders on all fronts, and it's clear that the positive disruption that SC is trying to deliver is based on making the project feasible and economical in the real world, where the probability of either finding a buyer, a JV partner or else raise money for ourselves is higher.
The last thing you want to do is to vote SC out before he can bring the strategy HE HAS EXPLAINED to fruition. The only change we need, is a project that is objectively feasible and economical, and it was not under NM or DC. What would we get is SC is pushed out, other than another setback, lack of clarity and direction, and more exposure to the vultures who are just waiting to get us when we are too weak to negotiate?
Eloro
I’m sure they’re fully aware of the general frustration at lack of any clarity.
Lol…..every car manufacturer is preparing for EVs, small ICEs will be too expensive to manufacture with the EU7 directive.
Sunak’s olive branch will make zero difference to the world wide adoption of BEVs
EVs will be so cheap in the next 5 years with 500m+ range, the Merc EQE is already 400 ish before the new technology hits.
The wind turbine zero bids are because the companies wanted a greater guaranteed cost which was still way below the cost of burning fossil fuels.
You keep on burying your head in the sand about the cost we-hike everyone else makes hay.
Even if I didn’t have access to the free charger its less than £3 for the 200m trip to charge or at home, hmmm let me think shall I go and fill up at a garage for £50 or charge it over night at home for £3…….that’s a tough one
You twist the figures to suit your agenda, the difference was £1300, for a house 3 times the size and it has got cheaper in the last 12 months for heat pumps.
You can lead a horse to water.
The red ramper with a hybrid…….lol
So what will be your argument when EV’s have a 1000mile range
DBW, perhaps Ship could pass on the message to solg during their next call that they need to throw us a bone, otherwise we will be siding with BHP at the next AGM.
Fed up of hearing Scott banging on about the rocks, while ignoring the fact that the SP is at rock bottom. So disappointed with his lack of concern for the SP and him not doing anything to turn it around.
Dear me red giving your age away there, you’re not even allowed in a Volvo showroom until you’re seventy.
Hybrids are the best if both worlds, clean school and supermarket runs but proper range when you’re going somewhere more distant
But they weren’t good enough for the eco fascists
Got two new grandaughters.
Switched my AMG for a Volvo Hybrid.
I'll never own an EV. Their manufacture alone does massive damage to the environment.
I've also never bought a new car in 55 years...
So how can you subsidise 30 million homes in the U.K. at a price of £5,000 per house…..with taxpayers money, ie our own
How do you get a free charge when 40 million cars all want to use one free charger?
Where do people who live in flats put a heat pump pr a charger?
Why were there zero bids for new wind turbines the other week? Because even with huge subsidy they are no longer feasible
Meanwhile many lifetimes supply of cheap gas lies right beneath our feet going to waste
Clown world