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Looks like yesterday was a dead car bounce. Futures and Asia markets as well as oil taking a hit
Japan now announced their first case
Moderna has a vaccine to sell. Perhaps they'll get an even healthier balance sheet if they can get a premium for a modified version of their current product.
Moderna CEO is more responsible for his shareholders than anyone else’s.
They don’t want this to be a one year payday. They want this now, forever more.
It seems that no matter what is the severity, they still want to suppress case rate, despite this being the way out of this torrid situation.
EZJ not looking well.
Big Blue you said yesterday Jet2 was the worst in the sector.
TBH, it's actually the better of the bunch of the 2 ugly sisters, ezj & iag.
Nonetheless, this sector is goosed for a long time, which is a shame.
Asian Airlines all up?
South Africa says it is seeing 'very low hospitalisation' from omicron
India’s health authorities have reportedly spoken to their South African counterparts about the situation with the outbreak of the omicron variant there, according to media reports.
South African health officials said that while they had found the new variant to be “highly transmissible”, it is also resulting in “very low [rates of] hospitalisation”, reported the Indian Express citing sources on the Indian side.
In their communication to the Indian Council of Medical Research and National Centre for Disease Control, the South African authorities reportedly said that omicron has resulted in no deaths so far and it only manifests itself in “the form of mild disease with extreme fatigue and throat irritation being the predominant symptoms”.
Patients are not experiencing symptoms like loss of sense of smell and taste or drop in oxygen levels, which was very widely observed in India and elsewhere as the delta variant spread across the world.
Easy J within expectations, nothing spectacular. If there is a readover to IAG it is that nothing special is going on and things are bumping along more or less as expected.
Vocal opposition to the masks is finally breaking surface in news broadcasts. Expecting more questioning of whether they are effective at doing anything during debate in house. So far the main issue of passing on concentrated contamination is not being broadcast. But it has taken a very long time for the subject of masks to be discussed at all. The mask lobby have their comfort blanket back for the moment so I expect intense counter lobbying to keep masks imposed on people.
Wobbles,
The market moving moderna CEO comments came after Asian market close I believe..
Radio 4 still giving platform to people pushing back hard on the direct medical reports from SA. It is clear the scientific community expected to old court at the center of attention again for a few weeks but have been sidelined by the info coming from SA. Posturing, vanity, office politics....
How is the moderna CEO allowed to go out and make a statement, without any formal evidence base? His comment is pretty much “my mate in the lab reckons this?”
Outright market manipulation. That it was delayed between Asian close and western open indicates there is more of this than meets the eye.
Again, said this before, people need to look at case data globally. Some of the biggest transit hubs (Dubai being a great example) have excellent vaccination rates. CSes are still falling day on day there. This variant has obviously been out now for a few weeks, possibly a fortnight. If it’s as transmissible as first thought, why are we not seeing case rate numbers tick up?
Yup, market happy with Easy J results, no shockers in there. Also kick back against hysterical response to variant grows. From the violent protests of late, now vocal protests for normally compliant back benchers, mass media editors that just can not ignore the extent of doubts being raised --- I think we are on the verge of the age of the lockdown being finished. Still very worrying the response globally trying to chase the spread of virus which is just nuts, and very weak governance locally where Boris feels he needs to be see to be doing something and so we have a stealth quarantine and those bloody stupid masks being forced on us again. I won't bother if I go into a shop and see what happens. There are plenty of alternative shops around. I might test the rule in other ways. It requires a 'face covering'. OK, how about my hand? Large post-it note? A loose thread scarf?
Masks are simply nothing other than a social behavioural control step to greater and greater freedoms being removed
Yes they have an effect. But face facts. If decrepit old people weren’t allowed to mix freely in public, it wouldn’t be an issue, would it? Home delivery services should be prioritised to anyone of pensionable age. We should have been getting them use to this form of delivery over summer. Just so when something like this happens, They can be contrained to quarters and stop screwing life up for the rest of us, with their inept immune systems and chronic conditions which turn a minor Chinese virus into a life/death/NHS capacity sapping event
Pfizer saying it should work didn’t make he big headlines:
On Monday, Scott Gottlieb, a Pfizer director, told CNBC: “There’s a reasonable degree of confidence in vaccine circles that [with] at least three doses?.?.?.?the patient is going to have fairly good protection against this variant.”
Moderna isn’t going for a simple single extra dose. He wants a locked in revenue stream now until eternity, getting governments to pay for something our own immune systems were evolved to do for us.
Right enough of all this madness. Moderna CEO has a completely hidden agenda!
https://www.cityam.com/covid-death-rate-not-rising-swap-travel-restrictions-and-mass-hysteria-for-cautious-optimism-as-omicron-mutation-is-super-mild-variant-who-and-coronavirus-experts-say/
To be fair, until a care home whacks it with the new strain, and we see a proper cluster amongst those short finals to the pearly gates anyway, we won’t know whether this is a problem in the west.
Africa doesn’t have many care homes in the provinces. If you get to 70, beating malaria, dengue and HIV your entire life, you are pretty much at lottery odds.
This is a point that people need to focus on. Demographics are not uniform the world over. On the flip side, we don’t know whether the case rate has shot up in SA due to their exceptionally large, untreated immunosuppressed community there (40% have HIV/AIDS in some SA regions).
Smithy, your party trick of wishing older people be killed off with is becoming rather boring.
Clearly you have a big issue at the front of your mind. You are afraid of dying. It is ever present in your mind. It intrudes into your posts in the most obscure fashion. Your own mortality dominates your whole mind. That much is apparent.
The irony is, you are the one who will stress yourself with your fears to such an extent, you will beat all us to the grave. We will give you a good send off at the dog and duck though, you can be sure of that.
Jtan, 100% agree, I've said this all along, the old need to die, it's their destiny, these poor old folk that are barel able to stand, take a leak or even put food into their mouths in care homes need to be allowed to move on. We are keeping them alive and sacrificing everyone else, how does that even make sense?
Pretty sure some of these views are how Nazi germany started
If I saw a dog urinate and soil itself, attack its loyal owner of 15 years and cost a fortune in vets bills, I don’t think many rational people would pick continued treatment over Attestupa, sorry, I mean euthanasia.
Bsinkers, No, it's not the views, it's what is happening to people by governments that is how Nazi Germany started. Mandatory masks, vaccines forced onto people, if you don't get that then it's on you. Saying we are artificially keeping the old and infirm alive is not how Nazi Germany started.
OK. This is a little further over the right than I had ever thought before. I'm not snowflake but some comments here are far to radical for my liking.
Stay at home then. Why should my kids futures be screwed up to pay to protect old people, when they can do that simply by not leaving the house?
fordm : IDIOT