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I reckon it would be a pretty small group BitL! :0))

I was somewhat surprised to hear that somebody at work at a sales call centre could spend that amount of time on a call with no chance of a sale at the end of it........

So, maybe its because they don't want staff talking for nearly 2 hours at a time to people who are not interested in buying what they have but just want to find out whats going on with Avacta?

(AVCT can't talk about it due to NDA's but the Medusa staff can pratle on like its common knowledge with complete strangers....)

If the assumption that the JK post was a wind up, would that make more sense?

HUA in the next few weeks/couple of months. new director taken on to get up to speed. So, no real new news on that front in fact?

Time will tell.

"It’s trading in a range. Our only trips north are driven by gains elsewhere. Hence the speeding tickets. Not driven by brochures, Medusa chats, ramps, MM, Ophidian’s predictions."

I know we don't always agree BitL but I think that's absolutely spot on.

"You guys really should try reading what I post not what others like to spin that I have posted"

Thats rich.... thats very rich......

Tim you said "they". ND and i get lumped together by most here. i am sorry if I misinterpreted who you were referring to.

Tim , that's just not true.

He's retired now D, and the company when he left was doing very well. ( No magic wand, but hard work and identifying the areas that need sorting. His biggest bugbear at the time was combatting the search engines that kept changing their criteria for keeping companies on page 1, the cost of these changes was pretty horrific. Internet businesses certainly have thie own problems to address, thats for sure!)

I think on balance EVE won't go bust. I think they have enough cash in the bank to survive a hiccup in sales, should even such a thing happen. The downside from here looks to be limited as long as they at least plod along. And obvioulsy good upside if CC crack's it.

Mainly its more a time thing (for me), But as you rightly say, each individual has their own view, timescale and expectation on EVE that will help them decide what to do and when.

Well TW, calling someone childish is not calling them "names" it is a reflection of how they are behaving. So I wasn't being hypocritical.

My "objective" is by buying AVCT stock at a certain price, will be in the future, to sell it at a higher price.

To help determine if that is likely it makes sense to look at the pro's and cons or as the definition of "objectively" states "in a way that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions."

What AVCT has, is potential (huge potential, some would say), Its products that are selling at present seem to be generating very little income that we know of and the milestone payments from tie-ups are for further research to see if they have commercial applications.

My specific criticism of ramping was to this BB and stock rather than get into a discussion on Coca Cola and McDonalds advertising and its ethical merits.

For the gazillionith time, I think the potential of its products make the buying and continued holding of this stock a risk worth taking.

I can't believe you actually thinking a ramping a stock so that its SP increases and then it not being supported by news to justify that price is reasonable?

AS, through his own utterances helped promote the stock to 275p a share. For new buyers at that time who believed him have been sitting on a large capital loss for some time. You think that was perfectly fair, reasonable and justified?

TW, if the tech works then "we" don't have to do anything. (This self-absorption and egotistical view that you think any here have any effect on the fortunes of AVCT is astounding).

Ramping on its potential may, on a big enough scale, move the SP for a short while but if it is not backed up with real developments that will generate profits, then it will fall back and eventually cease to trade. Simply talking it up does not add any value, other than make a bubble that others may buy into and then lose some of their money if/when the SP falls.

(and calling people names, apart from displaying your childish nature, does nothing for your argument.)

A long time ago now, I said a fried of mine who ran a Mattress delivery company (when i talked to him about Eve) was his scepticism they would ever make money, as the only way to get sales (in this particular market), was to, effectively through marketing, buy the business, and as soon as you stop the marketing, the sales drop alarmingly.

I got a bit of stick about it at the time but here we are a year or two on and CC is simply confirming the reality of how hard it still is to make this particular business model work.

The "problem" for EVE is that to be fair it recognised this very early on and when it launched as a PLC, it used all of that huge placing money to do exactly what CC advocates now, ie through company awareness generate loss making sales so as to be able to let people buy the brand when the advertising stops.

But as she admits its still a nut to be cracked.

I think she is doing a fantastic job with very limited resources at her disposal to achieve this goal but at best its slow. (Interviews for free publicity, winning awards to get reduced advertising rates, (relatively) low margin ancillaries, pushing a "sleep Wellness" theme etc.

But it still looks a long haul to me. (imo , DYOR)

TW, So if the CEO of Coca Cola lied, then that would be good would it?

At some sage rather than suggesting someone is a moron you might realise that an objective look at a company's prospects is more helpful then just deciding if a comment is "negative" or "positive"

The bias on this BB, while understandable to a degree, is completely off the chart.

The amount of recs unsubstantiated "positive" posts from gets is the proof.

What ND stated is correct. (Personally, I would say that the confirmation from ABDX was to me, the only bit of potentially new news as I am not aware of AS remarks previously, being backed up by a third party. But that is hardly huge news)

A company's fortunes are not dependent on the good wishes of its shareholders.

What the ABDX RNS did for Avacta I think, was to convey a sense of immediacy. Whether that's true or not (as there were no time lines given), is another matter.

Well, 100% in 5 years! Is that it? So in 5 years time after another 5 years of growth the SP won't be what it was last year....

That should get the buyers out in force.......

Why don't you just copy and paste my posy from yesterday? It would save you time

According to HL the closing price on their chart is 4.2p however that does make for a nice chart pattern as it continues the higher highs/lower lows recent formation.

i'd like it to stay at least above 4.1p but looking at the chart, cold as it were, it looks most likely to have a go at 4.4p any time.

Tomorrow could be good... but that again..... ( I hate charts!!!!) :0))

I did not mean that (I don't want to **** off the chart gods now we are so close.....)

the 140p target is now clearly in sight and if we can close above 141p tomorrow then it will have broken a 5 month trading range.

If we have a good RNS/tweet/ publicity of some sort tomorrow then that will do it I guess, however in the absence of any official news it won't be done until its done as there have been several false dawns and it may be a tough nut to crack.

If we do get past it then its a bit messy (and old) but the next target is anywhere between 154p to 167p

G-Mann, you really need to calm down. You will make yourself ill.

As for AS, he has had his fair share of misleading statements over the last 18 months.

And if you could let the red mist dissipate form your view you might remember that I have ever only been cautious on how much testing will be needed once the "Mass Testing" boat sailed.

I have consistently posted that the cancer trial is why i am still invested and I will be genuinely delighted to see my analysis of testing income completely wrong.

But that's maybe just me, I post my thoughts on the info available at the time and if new info comes to light then I am quite happy to change my view.

Right now the new info indicates to me that we really may have a test for Home use sooner than I thought. (Previously i thought it would somewhere between Jan and March 2022, and now hopefully it might even be this month. )

I still personally want to see production numbers and profit margins as do we all, but hopefully today was a (big) step closer to that outcome.

Its Brill! G-Mann, why wouldn't it be?

Joe, And it had Pith!

I don't think the name matters ND. if it gets recognised as the best test in the world and becomes a household name it will be fine

Pfizer came up with Viagra whereas the obvious name for it was Erectathon, but Viagra seems to have held up well.

It might be different this time Olly, as i think this is the first time there has been independent (via ABDX), corroboration that there are orders placed awaiting TT completion and validation approval.

“We have received significant purchase orders for manufacturing batches from Vatic and Avacta, in advance of completion of technical transfer of their products, and we are putting in place the required component stock to allow us to seamlessly move into manufacturing in due course. "

It does not remove the time line uncertainty but clearly is a very good step forward.