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The question isn't about antibodies generated by vaccine, its about:-
a: an lft is a qualitative test, it's yes/no, not how many (quantitative)
b: Even using a quantitative test, they currently don't have an agreed level that they can confidently use to say you are protected, as T-cells also play a part in protection, or if you can possibly be infected/infectious.

Basically covid antibody lfts were designed without any science to back up their use as a "passport" or "covid free" status.

the two must interesting quotes:-
"On the NHS website, it warns that antibody tests do not show “if you’re immune to Covid-19” or “if you can or cannot spread the virus to other people”. For some people, the question has been: what do they show then?"

"Chris Hand, the chairman of Abingdon Health, says he is hopeful that soon researchers will have that answer. “There isn't definitive evidence yet as to what level of antibodies infer immunity. But I think that’s coming."

When the chairman of the lead of the RTC admits that their isn't definitive evidence yet for the use of the test, you have to ask what the hell were they making them for ?

he "thinks" its coming. Quite the cheerleader there, but hey, many rampers on here still believe ODX is hit capacity week after week, month after month, knocking out RTC tests like billyo, so don't let the doubt of the chairman of the RTC hold you back :)

odx was always a covid play, and the best gains should have been when the company was full of promise at a time when covid was full of uncertainty. That's the times when it briefly hit £1+.

Its best promise was always short/medium term.

And as everyone knows, the list of AIM shares that EVER paid a dividend is a very short list indeed.

"childlike optimism" borne out of ignorance of the reality.

"dividends"...sometimes you gotta just smile at the childlike optimism

:)

"Hello EU. Please forgive and forget the 10 years of acrimony during brexit and the fact that we couldn't wait to leave the EU. That was nothing to do with us Mon cheri. We'd like to sell you our antigen test for home use"

Isn't that the british made test that failed validation by the british government, whilst 25 other tests were approved, including a number of chinese "crap" tests ?". Why the hell would we want to buy something from outside the EU that even their own government failed "

"ummm...."

"Yeah, that's what i thought, we'll stick to the Roche that's made in Europe and the extremely popular Abbot test that's been CE-ed for europe since the beginning of the year for self-swabbing and asymptomatic testing. Both those tests were also passed by Porton down. Thanks for your call"

https://www.medicaldevice-network.com/news/abbott-test-ce-mark/

Im not here on the hope of a ‘big pharma’ takeover, that’s for sure

I did tell people months and months ago there was no stockpiling, no 2M a week in April, no tests to make, no orders to fill.

I guess some people prefer to believe it unicorns and elves than what is infront of their eyes.

21st of May
Wuhan EasyDiagnosis COVID-19 (SARS-CoV-2) Antigen Test Kit
Beijing Kewei COVID-19 Antigen Rapid Test Kit

Is someone in gov having a right old laugh ?

news regarding the contract was imminent in Feb.

The only subsequent news we've had regarding the contract is that ODX can make a test today that it could not make in Feb, and also that test has failed validation by uk gov.

"big pharma" want patents, new potential drugs that have shown some promise, and other intellectual property.

Manufacturing is the boring end, knocking out stuff. anyone can build a factory.

all you can say about that is that at least it didn't make it any worse, which in itself is a positive compared to much of the newsflow that comes out of ODX.

You'll note that the position is still exactly the same as it was in Feb:-

feb 11th:
"The intention is that as soon as the DHSC has access to a test that has successfully passed a performance evaluation, the test will be licensed for Omega to manufacture. As part of the contract, DHSC will loan a number of key pieces of manufacturing equipment"

today
"Under that contract Omega will provide manufacturing capacity for COVID-19 lateral flow antigen tests utilising the key pieces of manufacturing equipment loaned by the UK Government for that purpose and Omega will manufacture whichever test is approved for use by the DHSC. "

Same message. What has changed of course is that in Feb, it was "any day now" that ODX would announce they had TT-ed the mologic test, a test that "any day now" would appear on the validation list from PHE, and "any day now" that uk gov would select that test as a sov test. Oh, and the country was in complete lockdown, with only a small proportion vaccinated.

Today, it took ODX 5 months to TT the test, the test has failed porton down validation, and the uk gov seems no closer to picking a test for odx to manufacture than it did in Feb, with an increasingly high percentage of the population vaccinated to the point that 19th of Jul is the "great unshackling day" for the uk. And where now are all the folks that insisted that ODX was mass producing stockpiles of tests under an NDA for the gov

That £50M-£374M contract is starting to look a lot more like £50M than £374M, and it would be worth noting that in the parliamentary answer to the question about surescreen, the respondent highlighted that there were a number of get out clauses in that contract, which is substantially similar to the ODX contract.

Appears ODX has allowed itself to be shafted by the government for a second time, quite an achievement.

you can tell how much of a complete s*itshow odx is in when there is a complete lack of input from the normal Mr cool, except to attack others.

the question I have is, when did Porton down first refuse to validate Mologic due to kit failure, and was that before or after the 2M shares options were cashedout by directors ?

" I expect an RNS at some stage tomorrow explaining again that “ODX will manufacture any test HMG tells it to”"

Which is what they have been saying since mid-Feb.

"The intention is that as soon as the DHSC has access to a test that has successfully passed a performance evaluation, the test will be licensed for Omega to manufacture. "

Over 4 Months ago, and nothing has changed, except most of the adult population is now vaccinated,

rocquet, ODX need the uk gov to select a test, if Mologic's implication is correct and it is not actually failing, but Porton Down is saying it is failing, then it's because they don't want to select a test.

ODX can do NOTHING with a large part of its capacity until uk gov allows it. Now Mologic is saying Porton down is getting a massive failure rate. Could be completely false. And of the capacity that ISN'T under gov control, who in their right mind is going to buy the visitect test, if the UK gov body assigned with testing such tests says it has an impractically high failure rate ?

ODX is turning into the perfect s*itshow.

rocquet, can you take you avacta crap elsewhere, it appears you've decided to use the word Avacta as often as possible on the ODX forum, no one appreciates it.

ODX have the mologic test TTed. anything other than that test, and its a 3 month TT process, or Sept before ODX can supply.

And if mologic end up pressing the legal button, who knows how long that will take.

"Nothing has change for ODX, we are still waiting for the government to declare the sovereign"

The implication from the article is clear, Mologic fully expected to be declared a sov test a long time ago, and has not. this means that odx visitect test was expected to be the sov test.

Is it ever good when a company sues its buyer, especially when the buyer is uk gov ?

Almost unbelievably, it looks like ODX will have another test tied up in a legal process, and once again it is not even party to the legal process.

CK has said recently that they don't know what the sov test is. So if they don't know, there is ZERO point in TT-ing a test. The only test that is TTed is the mologic one. If the sov test is not the mologic one, then a TT has to happen, and then it has to be CE-ed.

We also specifically know from the recent news that the Innova tests are being repackaged as uk tests

anyone selling this stock is bonkers.
"oh...ok"

I am a new holder here.
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