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https://finance.yahoo.com/news/jungo-works-qualcomm-deliver-next-130000328.html?.tsrc=fin-srch

Reviewing this again:
NETANYA, Israel, Jan. 6, 2020 /PRNewswire/ -- Jungo Connectivity Ltd. today announced plans to work its collaboration with Qualcomm Technologies, Inc., a subsidiary of Qualcomm Incorporated, to feature Jungo's next-generation Driver Monitoring System (DMS) and In-Cabin Monitoring (ICM) AI software onto 3rd generation Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ Automotive ****pit Platforms.

As a part of the working relationship, Jungo's CoDriver DMS/ICM AI software will leverage the compute capabilities featured on the Snapdragon Automotive ****pit Platforms to deliver a compelling platform.

This joint effort allows automotive OEM and Tier1 suppliers to quickly add DMS and ICM functionality into their infotainment or other automotive systems based on Snapdragon, alongside other applications such as infotainment, mapping, surround view and personal assistants, accelerating production timeframes, lowering costs and allowing for the seamless integration with world class DMS and ICM software.

Multiple OEMs already selected the integrated solution for various production deals, with SOP starting 2021.

I read that as - yes, they are using Qualcom platform in 2021 for infotainment, GPS and surround cameras, but not using the platform with Jungo DMS

https://observantai.com/technology

They use iphones for safety driver monitoring.

Looks interesting, but they misrepresent how 2d cameras are used. Also I don't see any dark glasses

Out friends on Sweden are just starting to work it out

https://twitter.com/Nyemissioner/status/1214572632852631552?s=19

https://www.bosch-presse.de/pressportal/de/en/ces-2020-bosch-zeigt-intelligentetechnik-fuers-leben-204672.html

This is a summary of the what Bosch will present at CES. I presumed that we would be involved in the 3d display, but it seems to be without eye tracking. But if course we are in this:

Interior monitoring – safety, comfort, and convenience for all occupants (AI inside): Based on eyelid movements, direction of gaze, and sitting position, this Bosch vehicle interior monitoring system detects when the driver is drowsy or looks at a smartphone – and alerts the driver to critical situations. It also monitors the vehicle interior to determine how many occupants are present and where they are seated. This makes it possible to optimize the operation of safety systems such as the airbags in an emergency. What’s more, the system increases occupants’ comfort and convenience. For instance, it automatically activates stored personal settings such as seat position. In the future, when vehicles are in partially automated driving mode for sections of the journey such as on the freeway, the driver monitoring system will become an indispensable partner: the camera will ensure that the driver can safely take the wheel again at any time.

Hi JC,

I don't see SEE making much of this patent. Several years ago you might have seen Apple use it in their "cars" or perhaps Samsung deploy across their range? But now the fruits have pulled back from automotive and as KK said Ss were interested but moved on. I don't think that there is a large enough brand in India that could take this on. So we are at the mercy of small Chinese firms making standalone dash cams.

Just seen some Spaniards unparking from a tiny space. Anything is possible. HNY

Red, I agree with your positive outlook. Must remember those 40k of Guardians ready to be installed (maybe not quite all of them or maybe we will need more!)

I think that SEE will survive the year independent. But if not we will still need the BB to declare where our yachts and golf courses are or at least so we can review our SEE enabled cars.

GLA

Robbie,
SEE have done medical in the past. But I think this is more of a case of a shrinking pool of talent, so get similar transferable skills instead.

Catching up with a Mojito by the pool.

Colin is working on real products :)

Microsoft research in India are doing ad hoc and blue sky research with open minds at ~ 20% our the cost of the US. HAMS may explore some great ideas - automating the driving test for example, but I don't see layers of very clever processing making up for a mobile phone camera. Adding in hardware to make it work is an interesting idea, but that requires a mobile for the brains and it is not efficient enough. I don't see a commercial case for this project to get a green light.

If this was Apple or Samsung there is perhaps the scale of hardware and brand loyalty to make it work but not for MS.

So I am confident that SEE has it all sewn up. There will be 3rd party add-ons to phones but nothing to worry about. Custom standalone hardware is more of a worry.

The companies that are making dash cams this year will be making terrible DMS this time next year. But they are no real threat to Fovio, or Guardian in decent firms

We will be making plenty in automotive and aviation, and in Guardian fees.

Xilinx

This is unrelated to us. But may be worth a punt.
Microsoft has been building up its Azure business. Seeing them move towards Xilinx for some specialised processing is understandable as FPGA can be optimised for certain types of processing. This is how Xilinx are also busy with 5G

For some more details, why not follow Beth at https://beth.technology/

( JC, sorry but in Microsoft, "Visual" has nothing to do with Vision. It is a brand for their programming environments.)

Hi JC.
Yes that Microsoft patent for debugging certainly matches his previous job at MSFT. However, I wouldn't pin too much of a SEE msft link up on Colin as his work on Visual Studio is to develop debugging tools for programmers. That would be a long way from the R&D centre (in India? ) where the dms patent comes from.

I do like the parallels between the camera/phone mount and the MS patent, but it does seem like either intellectual curiosity or a deliberate attempt to avoid other patents.

Surely, all that interpolation between RGB and thermal IR could be avoided by using the correct NIR camera! Or were they trying to build upon their existing gaming IR sensors?

Keep up the research. If nothing else we are distracting the opposition ;)

Have a great new year JC and all the other cheerful posters. 2020 will be something very special

Oh dear, well it will do for a few years.

https://vehicle-electronics.biz/news/jaguar-checks-drowsy-drivers/2102

Thu, 21/11/2019 - 08:40 | Steve Rogerson
Driver condition monitoring is standard on Jaguar’s E-Pace
Driver condition monitoring is standard on Jaguar’s E-Pace

Jaguar has developed driver condition monitoring technology that alerts the driver if it detects the tell-tale signs of drowsiness.

One in eight UK drivers admit to having fallen asleep at the wheel, and this causes up to a quarter of fatal accidents.

“The statistics around drowsy drivers are shocking, even more so when you realise it is an under-reported issue,” said Edmund King, director of the AA Charitable Trust. “Any measure that helps reduce the risk of tired drivers, such as Jaguar’s driver condition monitor, is to be welcomed. The only real cure for tiredness is to rest. If drivers feel tired, or are alerted to possible tiredness by their car, they should pull over at the next safe place, drink a caffeinated drink and take a short nap.”

As part of a wider vision to enrich and improve the lives of its drivers and passengers, the system takes inputs from thousands of data points, some of which are measured every thousandth of a second, including the electronic power assisted steering, pedal inputs and general driving behaviour. Algorithms analyse all this to determine accurately whether a driver is becoming fatigued.

Fitted as standard on E-Pace and across the Jaguar range, the driver condition monitor detects if the driver is starting to feel drowsy and, when required, provides an early warning to take a break. The E-Pace’s instrument cluster displays a coffee-cup icon and sounds an alert when a prompt is needed.

“At Jaguar, we continuously review the latest advances in vehicle safety and develop innovative technologies to improve the driving experience, making it safer and more enjoyable,” said David Willey, assisted and automated driving attributes senior manager for Jaguar. “Driver condition monitor, along with a range of advanced driver assistance systems (adas) are offered as standard across the Jaguar range.”

The E-Pace is also fitted with an array of other adas to help keep the driver and occupants safe. Standard features on all Jaguar models include automated emergency braking, lane keep assist, cruise control with speed limiter, front and rear parking aid, and a rear-facing camera

Yes!

https://aaafoundation.org/understanding-the-impact-of-technology-do-advanced-driver-assistance-and-semi-automated-vehicle-systems-lead-to-improper-driving-behavior/

The ultimate goal of advanced driver assistance systems (ADAS) is to increase traffic safety and driving comfort. Despite their potential safety benefits, there are concerns about unintended consequences associated with intermediate levels of automation. In these scenarios, speed control and/or steering are automated, but the driver is still required to monitor traffic and be ready to resume control. A key concern is that drivers may become inattentive due to engagement in non-driving-related tasks or become drowsy while driving using these systems.

In this study, the Virginia Tech Transportation Institute leveraged data from two previous naturalistic driving studies (NDS):

• The Virginia Connected Corridors (VCC) Level 2 Naturalistic Driving Study, in which researchers observed participants’ driving for one year as they drove their personal vehicles

• The Level 2 Mixed Function Automation (MFA) NDS, during which participants were provided with a study vehicle to drive for one month

These datasets were used to investigate driving behavior while in vehicles that offer simultaneous control of speed (adaptive cruise control [ACC]) and steering (lane-keeping assistance [LKA]), both while using the automation and when they were driving manually.



Key Findings
The study examined driver behavior, various measures of driving performance, engagement in secondary (non-driving) tasks, driver drowsiness and involvement in safety-critical events. A subset of the most salient results are described below (see full report for complete results).

Secondary task engagement

The results from the VCC data set indicate that the simultaneous use of ACC and LKA systems was associated with a 50% increase in the odds of engaging in any form of secondary task and an 80% increase in the odds of engaging in visual and/or manual secondary tasks, compared with when the same drivers who were not using the automated system. Drivers using both systems simultaneously also took more frequent and longer glances at non-driving-related tasks and spent less time with their eyes on driving-related tasks.

Drivers from the MFA did not display the same tendency toward distracted driving behaviors when automation systems were active. Instead, they were more likely to engage in a secondary task and take their eyes off the road during manual driving, possibly indicating a lack of trust in the automated systems.

Unsafe driving behaviors and safety-critical events

In the VCC data set, speeding-related performance errors were observed in 11% of sampled epochs in which ACC and LKA were used together, significantly fewer than when driving under similar conditions with the automation available but not in use (17.5%). However, drivers in the MFA data set showed the opposite trend, with speedi

Red,

Smart Eye are working at the highest levels with impressive companies. NASA for example, but, this is through Research Instruments part of SE. They sell very nice small cameras and the software for eye tracking to be used in research environments. That could be in a ****pit mock up that is being tossed around for research.

"As a premium supplier we have earned the trust of NASA, Boeing, US Air Force, General Motors, Harvard University and Stanford University among others. In other words, there is no need to study the specifications to see that we deliver the cutting edge of technology."

They may charge eye watering amounts but they sell very few. But the customer list is handy for them to wave about

Apologies WhatIf,

You were more thorough reading through the regulations.
Article 11
Specific requirements relating to automated vehicles and fully automated vehicles
- driver availability monitoring systems required unless fully automated

B: Date for refusal to grant EU type-approval: 6 July 2022
Date for the prohibition of the registration of vehicles, as well as the placing on the market and entry into service of components and separate technical units: 7 July 2024
and
(5) Compliance is required in case of automated vehicles.

I took the (5) to be that it was required now (and the 2 weeks came from memory) as to when all of this applies. But now comparing this with other numeric clauses such as "(1) Compliance is required if fitted." it seems to indicate that it only applies if the vehicle is "automated" (Level 3 or 4, not "fully automated" which is Level 5) , so there is no change to the dates above.

S2,

the people I feel sorry for:
- the people who paid up front for a feature they will never get
- the "faceless bureaucrats" who will get the blame for saving lives by disabling features
- the families of those who are killed or injured by inattentive drivers

Unfortunately the cat is half out of a bag that it should never have been put in. I know that I wouldn't like to be in a Tesla on autopilot when the corner gets just too sharp and I am given control without warning.

The 2 weeks is to get "Type Approval" to sell L3 or L4 vehicles without a driver availability system
I can't see there being many Type approvals while the offices are closed for the holiday.

If Daimler want to sell a L3 version of S-Class (remember this is for eyes-off) then they must have an availability monitor to ensure the driver is ready to take back control. Good thing that we are involved in that project

Tesla (L2) don't need to worry, they have several more years, because their drivers are always paying attention to the road

Waymo and Uber are still testing so won't be asking for Type Approval to "sell" the vehicles in Europe

Chris - the level 3 part won't be for sale in Europe without a Driver availability monitor unless they can get it type approved in 2 weeks.

here is a handy diagram, unfortunately the OP may have backed the wrong horse

https://twitter.com/Aktiemalle/status/1207070635022794752