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If this is real, I have a theory.

(Altho cannot see any reference at top of RNS)

I'm usually a fool, but wondering if this is an April special, Neil?

I must be blind, in addition to being stupid, because I cannot see that reference anywhere

April 1

?

Not looking for that , Highland.

Looking for Ciz to release accurate factual RNS' on material or price sensitive changes.

Looking for Allan Syms to stop being vague and misleading in interviews.

Looking for more integrity with regular updates - positive or negative.

Why do you think the next RNS will be unpleasant?

If you could go back to the Directors Talk interview and find exact timing and quote please.

It will help me when I try to compile some information to formulate questions.

(Any other pertinent stuff along these lines too, cheers)

Thanks

All posters on here have equal weight and an equal voice in my mind. I like everyone having a say. The more the better.

Widglide..

As I mentioned in my early posts I relied too much on other posters, which was entirely my problem.

Now I've got to know the company a little bit more - a bit late! - I'm slightly more circumspect.

To be honest and to be fair though, I don't think it's down too much to overt optimism by other posters , it seems more that the company has been giving misleading updates.

What do you do with that?

Unfortunately for me it's a little bit after-the-facrbto realize the company is full of BS, but I have taken quite a few of the table.

Our endeavors should be towards the company and knowing what's going on from now on, and not personality driven.

All posters from Telegram group have equally valid views, but I'd rather they were shared publicly on here than in a group.

Ps Widdy... What makes you think the next RNS will be a stinker?

PPS my Santa apology (I think Neil got it! - I was apologising that Neil was the one to confirm that Santa doesn't exist! not for offence of first post 😁

Anyway , all for one and one for all.

Brond said:" dont want messages between the company and individuals and shareholder reps and secret Telegram groups. I want RNSs that are clear and explantitiv and follow up interviews that are more than just a replay of the RNS."

Couldn't agree more Brond, but without more pressure we aren't going to get that. And from a personal basis I'm going to apply more pressure from various means.

Telegram groups et al:

My view on these type of groups is that I can't stand cliques, secrecy, self-imposed hierarchy and group think.

I hate these little secret subsets of 'power'. Information should be shared.

"There is no suggestion anything like this has happened with Ciz”

Statement included for legal reasons.

Thomson Reuters Practical Law.

Updating the market: Disclosure obligations:

Listing Rules: Isuers must notify without delay major new developments that may affect their business if the development may lead to a substantial share price movement.

Misleading statements and creation of false or misleading impressions. Section 397(1) and (2) of the FSMA (relating to investments) provide that, in certain circumstances, it is a criminal offence for a person to make a statement, promise or forecast which he knows to be misleading, false or deceptive or is reckless in making it, or dishonestly conceals material facts. In certain circumstances a person who does any act or engages in a course of conduct which creates a false or misleading impression as to the market in or the price or value of certain investments commits a criminal offence (section 397(3), FSMA).

There is no suggestion anything like this has happened with Ciz.

On Tuesday or Wednesday I will send an open question on here to Tim Metcalfe and Allan Syms, regarding information in previous interviews and RNS'.

I will also call/text and/or e-mail TM directly and report any answers back verbatim and fully on here.

If the answers confirm previous RNS and interview data, no-one needs worry. To contradict any of that should have been RNS'd.

A lot of supposition there Green, but that's all we are left with.

"I think the science works", you say. Maybe.."A 10B business isn't going to risk reputational damage by RNSing something they can't stand behind"..you added

Again, maybe.

Maybe that was true at that point within limits but it didn't go far enough. Maybe Ciz version doesn't tally with Biotechne, maybe something has subsequently changed.

We don't know..

And again.

We SHOULD be informed. Since we had no idea of Biotechne (in the positive), Ciz is setting an unsettling precedent of only releasing news that suits them.

Unfortunately this works to the negative too.

Openness and accurate updates are the key to trust, else we are just flailing in the dark.

Exactly Brond - so the question is : How do we get Ciz to tell us the truth about what's happening?

Ps what makes you think it's just one private investor in the fundraise?

If so, it's a sign of confidence, but I doubt it's just one person. I concur that future funding will almost definitely be needed, but I think these shares will be flipped - and if so, another black mark against Ciz.

We'll see on that one.

Papertub, I basically agree with what you're saying. I also think timescales are going to be drawn out. They may never achieve what they're hoping to commercially.

The problem is that they stated that assays had basically been optimized, and it was time for clinical trials and then commercialization.

Now they're saying something totally different.

Labouring a point here, but I think we're at a stage where we all need to know what's going on.

Well , absolutely no offence intended Brond. Good-humoured banter.

Again. ..

Your post gets to the crux of things without actually stating the subject.

Whatever is going on, whichever path they are taking, progress.

WE NEED TO KNOW. As shareholders we have a RIGHT to know

(Not every little scientific step or daily increments in the lab, but an overall picture ..why details on reagents etc have fundamentally changed)

Ps Brond..sorry about Santa, because you seem such a lovely lad 😁

Thanks v much for that Neil and I think it reinforces, supports my/our concerns here. Again, I really do appreciate your views, and it's a flaw of my character that I sometimes shoot from the hip. Big heart, open mind and reason lies within though.

I think we can all agree on this now - that we don't know fully what is going on, and we NEED better communication with specifics to make a judgment on our own investments.

It's just not good enough and the company, as you say , have been sending out mixed messages (at the very least). Speaking with forked -tongue.

My unease comes from not even knowing what they're saying! Allan uses "done, partly done, being done and to be done" in highly unspecific vague waffly lingo. It's so loose, it's unprofessional. I've certainly lost trust in what he says.

We don't know what we have achieved , we don't know what the problems have been (some for sure, I'm guessing) and we don't know what is to be done - and we don't know the timescales.

Neil, I wouldn't read too much into the £620k specifics. And also more vague semantics from Alan " to go towards the completion of commercialization"..

"Towards" in Ciz language could mean anything.

The trading patterns in the 3 weeks prior to RNS were irregular. I've been mentioning block sells for ages. It wasn't normal PI stuff. That's all that I can say with surety.

Neil, I would be grateful if you could keep us posted if you hear any more.

Brond..?! Forward selling? False rises, Brokers?

I'm not going to be the one who tells you about Santa!😁

Neil 👍

All very reasonable points, Brond, and maybe it is negative confirmation bias on my part.

Just specifically in response to your £600K funding raise, YES , they would do it for a random punt, because I know that select shareholders are courted and given first dibs on these - because, as OAPk alluded to, they know there'll be a (false ) rise to let them out with a profit - if they haven't already forward sold.

I'll be surprised if there's any sticky hands in this raise, although, if so, that would add a lot of weight to it... Maybe they have done it for that maybe they have done it for their benefit..and if it was Biotechne, this would rocket.