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Green and Brond..

Thanks for your thoughtful input.

Some interesting points from both of you..

As you both alluded to, with Ciz there are more questions than answers (Widdy, you are being proved right at the mo!)

This is like a maze.

Are we starting again because we have failed with the reagents, or are we using a new source because it widens our capability?

What about Corepath?

And what about the RNS last September which indicated that things were basically ready? (That now seems like BS)

This is my main problem with this.

What do we trust.

What is the nature of the information.

Where are we.

There is more left out than what is included.

It could be very very good or very very bad. It's so hard to gauge and I'm not impressed. It leaves a very bad taste because the communication is so bad and they are not clear about things.

Hard to know where we stand in that is not a great position to be in with hard money on the table.

Ps Brond. The rise to 2.8 was obviously a forward selling opportunity for those in the know.

Poor .

You should read a bit more , Counting Cards .

By his own words, Neil said he used to be called " the Rottweiler" in a previous job incarnation.

Amazing what you learn when you read CC

CC... You work for Ciz don't you?

I'm not having a bad time of it at all

C1p2D

A couple of things

1) Neil. Where are you? Either you're.smarting because you're cheesed off with this RNS or you knew it was coming. I know you read every comment.

2) Singapore.

I feel that China is dead. Allan Syms is way out of his depth here. Although with biotechne maybe better...

Why not heard about China ?

3) why are Ciz suddenly going to France for reagent? What's going on? Something has changed. No Sensitivity data

Why?

4) Jace. Tell me about Singapore. Since you are the almanac here.

Are Ciz trying to open a Shell Company? Why?

5) is Bill Behnke's registration of any value yet? Maybe soon? Maybe it's just a shell company in Expectation hence no RNS. I'd love to know what BB's input will be. Trying to stay positive about this but without rns's about progress quite difficult with everyone being told to stay Schtum.

6) why are Ciz going all over the shop for reagants/deals etc when the basic upscaling not even verified?

These are not answers or implied answers. These are questions that shareholders should be asking.

And when we get down to the gist, Jace, I can see that you don't have the real information just your extrapolation of where you think it should go.

Anyway please cancel me and don't reply.

Jace. No idea of your WhatsApp. How would I know that?

I just know your age by your attitude and your naiveity regarding share price.

And also the fact that you can't take opposite views and listen to them.

Hi mate.

I've been quiet because I've been making phone calls and waiting to see what happened.

I called Bill Behnke 2 weeks ago and he was on business in the Cayman Islands.

I'm surprised he snswered and had a short chat.

He said he would call the next day but then has second thoughts obviously after calling Ciz.

I've been holding off a pal doing an article (fairly positive in the Daily Mail)

But I think that the gloves are off soon, as this is getting a bit sniffy .

After years of investing the smell of a rat becomes quite pronounced.

I could be wrong, but something amiss. Not only gut feeling but time scales / reagant manufactured.

Shall I comments on Singapore???!

Neil?

OAPK..

You've always been a bit obtuse! Although fair minded and skeptical.

I'm with VV here..

When you start being overtly lied to, then that's when faith goes

I was tempted to derisk at 2.7p.

Next time on fluff I will

Starting to get a bad smell here .

Will let you in on the Bill Behnke set up soon if smell doesn't go .

I think you can categorically say that this RNS contradicts at least the sentiments of the last six months.

If they are not going to RNS things that works both in the positive and the negative.

This time scale is obviously a negative.

Agree with VV completely ..

This has got all of that feel about s bad aim company.

Why don't you call the company and ask about China?

Ask about Bill Behnke and the registration..

Sorry TM . This is now starting to sound like BS

Daily Mail soonish?

Old Jace..a young 'un obviously.

My guess ..somewhere between 18 and 30.

Never cancel someone because there's always tid bits that are pertinent.

I find cancel culture really immature and dangerous.

Anyway back to the point.

Why have the company changed to France?

Why are they changed without RNSing?

Isn't anyone else's suspicious here?

Maybe people have lost their objectivity because of our investments.

There is something here that just feels wrong

I hope not but it's the fact they're not saying anything but things are going on in the background.

I suppose you could see it as being positive. But that would be a subjective feeling without empirical data

So, someone on here mentioned why no mention on MSM.

Since , although I have a science degree, I used to work in the MSM, and have a good pal on the Daily Mail invested here...

I think it's nearly time for the company to put up or shut up. And since Ciz is obviously only releasing the things they feel is pertinent in a positive way - but obviously avoiding negative aspects..

There's something not quite right here. Either in message communication, or actually covering negative results.

Those out there will know what I'm talking about.

Apparently the BBC and Sky have been notified..

But now things are getting a little bit confused...

What exactly is going on with these tests??

Why are new companies involved??

Where are the results??

Exactly . Good post.

Imo absolutely crap RNS...

I'm going to become a Widdy fan soon !

Many more questions than answers..

Starting to sound like previous chemicals not doing the biz.

Neil...over to you.

Jace

Grow up.

"seems Cizzle will be more Central to getting in this to market"

Indeed Green.

Probably if you live in Jace world that is good news, but if you live in my world it's bad news.

More fragmented, more potential problems communicating between groups, more logistical problems more delays.

I've stated before I believe China is off the table for now. Always did. Radio silence confirms this.

I also cold-called Bill Behnke. Surprised he picked up the phone.

Can't say much really , not that much was said!

Overall impression with Ciz. Disappointed no clinical trial, sensitivity results etc etc..

I think they are trying to get several locations across the globe sorted out.

I wish someone big like Biotechne was running it as it just feels too big for Cizzle to me.

I would like the results of the sensitivity specificity..that is fundamental.

Go back to Allan Syms own words.

"Our hope is that we have it in the market in the VERY near term".

That is simply an untrue statement, unless you stretch very near term into something not used in common parlance

For the record I'm most certainly do not think this is a lifestyle company.

I'm saying it's sending off those messages of jam tomorrow.

CC - sometimes it's psychology but sometimes it's real when you're sold a pup.

And what I mean by that is I think the company (AS) has been falsely bullish on his timelines last year.

Seems that there is still a hell of a lot of work to be done, and it's all rather ambiguous.

I like clarity and definitives.

If they're going to be mealy-mouthed /tight lipped with RNS' then the podcast and interviews in between shouldn't give falsely leading information.

I could go a bit into the Bill Behnke situation but I won't.

So some of the psychology you talk about, is partly psychology but partly from my own research too.

I'm more annoyed they're not using the CDT shares, but I also think that RNS as the typical Aim (I know we're not aim) feeling of jam tomorrow.

I'm surprised we've still got reagent and testing in front.

Maybe old Widdy can replace Neil as king of the board ! ;o)

You don't have to read between the lines much to see that this is months away.

I think the company have been a little bit disingenuous with their positivity on timelines.

To be honest I'm not impressed by what Neil has had to say, or not saying; either is information is Duff, or something else going on.

I've made numerous phone calls myself to various places, I'm getting a little bit jittery with answers and conversations.

At the very best this is a quite a major delay and disappointment about Biotechne.

Are we experiencing problems with reagents or up scaling.

Absolutely not happy today as I'm tied in for much longer and it feels a lot more murkier. The tone has changed from definitive, to maybes

They could have used CDT for funding.

No bigger tie up with biotechne.

Got a feeling time scales are being stretched out aka lifestylrw companies.

AS getting to market in the" v near term "starting the sound like Bull.

So this was the reason for the price rise in recent days.

Not happy at all and I think this is very ambiguous.

But I'm locked in now with quite heavy investment.

Think the company are being a bit loose here on progress and timelines

We'll see

Hmmm..yep..not rounded trades, , but clumped suspiciously together

Only having a bit of fun Oapk..😆wibble.

Think Abbott and Costello circa 1940s (no I'm not that old! but I am very irreverent)

If Which is What, then Who is Why, but if Who is Why , then is Why really How? And Why is Who masculating as Why?!

Indeed, oapk