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Praying for some help from the judge, we can sacrifice a wolf in return.

Sotolo, what report are you reading? Have you included all metals in your figures? Ayacucho has 167 mines out of which 35 are producing ore. If they close all mines in that region then there won't be any jobs. Don't get me wrong, preserving the environment is very important but they have to use water to mine. There's no other way about it AFAIK. Why has Inmaculada suddenly become so damaging to environment?

Hi mountainous, if you consider only THEIR 20% stake in Cineworld and a 35m payout, this translates into ~12,5c per share.

I guess many would want to close their short before suspension so the SP can go up a lot or it may go down after Wednesday's hearing. Thursday morning will be make or break. If CW's life is prolonged we could easily see 1p again.

"the state has to understand that we are also Peruvians"

and like most other peruvians will remain in poverty for the rest of their live

Mooky and crew walk away with 35m, the ones who least deserved it, bloody pratts.

Back in at 231, I've decided not to wait for the 20s

Nick, I totally agree with you and Peru is very tricky. One would think that the government shouldn't screw hochschild because of their history and connection to Peru. It doesn't make any sense to stop and block a legal miner, needless to say it's damaging to the company.

35m to the execs for their cooperation... Many people on here predicted that but I always thought this would be a some sort of backdoor agreement and not made public.

Wolf, you can't have your cake and eat it too. The lenders are not owed 14bn$. Before, your argument was that all theatres are rented and cineworld has nothing but screens and now when I propose that the shareholders can BUY (not get for free) 5-10% to start over again you're suggesting that we should bring 2bn$ to the table.

And by the way you just admitted that the creditors want to snatch everything for peanuts and won't be open to any deals, e.g. for 5-10% of the business.

"Why on earth would the creditors agree to that?"

maybe to de-risk and get some money back that they would never recover otherwise. They are "out of pocket" after making poor investment decisions and we need 20-50 debt free theaters for a fresh start.

Don't think it will get suspended even if administration filing rumours are true. It's still a process and there are options outlined in patients' letter, such as buying out the creditors or ideally buying some part of cineworld from them at a discounted price. This should allow to unlock equity value. What was the reason for excluding such option? Why can't the existing shareholders participate in an equity raise to buy some part of the cinema chain?

@Joey, why do you think PE ratio is a relevant metric for HOC?

249 target for a bounce back

That would be the DIP facility in full + whatever cannot be maintained with a low estimate of current earnings.

Nothing has been set in stone yet. If the MEIA was secured on good terms I expect the SP to close at 110 at the very least. The uncertainty around Inmaculada puts a lot of downward pressure on this stock.

Tracking silver atm.

Suited, booted and golden parachuted :D

Yes, she has too many shares and two buttons like everyone else.