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My bet would be, ‘great news’ (yet again, lol) but no ‘real hard evidence’.

I‘m guessing that IKN’s chosen charity for mr_wolfe to donate to, assuming IKN wins of course, will be some kind of tourette’s related organisation.

I get what you mean antha, but personally i think it’s extremely unlikely that of the cloudtag pis will organise themselves to attempt such legal action. i think if they were going to do that, they would have tried it years ago. (that’s why i say i think it will most likely remain murky indefinitely).

Rktech, sadly, i don’t think that you will ever get the kind of evidence or clarity you want to show what’s been going on.

one of the key issues with cloudtag, as a private, unlisted company operating in a ‘relaxed’ jurisdiction with a single BoD member, is that there are hardly any obligations on them at all to disclose anything meaningful about the company, including shares owned, sold, director deals, accounts etc etc.

it’s all totally obscure, and can remain that way pretty much forever. (… & even if amit did at some point provide an update about shares issued/ sold / cash position etc etc, to be blunt there isn’t really a mechanism to check if he’s telling the truth...)

obviously, if everything amit has said is true and shareholders all receive loads of cash very soon, that will evidence the positive case. but it’s an asymmetric situation; i.e. if cloudtag is just smoke and mirrors, then you will probably never ever get a defining / conclusive moment that will suddenly reveal all the evidence about that. it’ll just stay murky forever.

i do agree that most sane people wouldn’t dream of putting any more money into cloudtag. but to judge from this chatboard alone, he does still *appear* to have a few folks who still claim that they genuinely believe he is highly likely to deliver them a cash terms multi-bagger within the next few weeks / months. if someone genuinely *does* believe that, then it would be entirely rational for them to put yet more money in. but if that is happening, there’s no way you or anyone else could evidence that was happening, given zilch disclosure requirements. the most you might see would be someone claiming on social media to have done a top-up, but i rather suspect that amit would be swearing people to hush-hush secrecy … and frankly some people might be too darn embarassed to admit they were buying more. ajmho.

“… a technical situation arose…”

believe that, and you will believe anything.

night all.

His followers seem willing to keep believing almost anything, and he’s not suffered in any noticeable way from all the other times he’s already ‘painted himself into a corner’. ?so frankly, why not do the same all over again? - keeps making money (just not for the pis).

Helx2, nope, you misunderstand, i don’t think “it’s all over” …. to the contrary, i think it’s yet more of the same, on and on, rinse and repeat. after all, there’s no advantage for him to call a halt to the game currently.

….it’s just the cloudtag usual, helx2. stooges and shills trying to pretend there’s an imminent payout coming.

same old, same old. cloudtag’s been like this for years.

amazing imv how many folks still fall for it.

Bobbybingo, perhaps their problem was that they didn’t really want to offload at the price which an ‘established institutional investor’ or ‘strategic investor’ might have been prepared to pay (i.e. not much!)? — more likely imo they were hoping they dump into the nutty ramped up prices that some pis were paying back then.

… both, in a way. worth a glance at the 2nd august RNS re edison comment. i remain happily long on longer-term view, but short term the real estate stuff is a tough ride.

Lol, yes, no doubt they’ll be announcing bids for workovers of abandoned mexican wells anytime soon…

…. thing is about cloudtag, it’s actually not bad at dropping ‘news’ from time to time, i suppose to motivate the faithful and keep the plates spinning, but it’s never that good at dropping money into peeps’ accounts.

amusing that 1982 is so coy about where he heard that friday date, but entirely par for the course with cloudtag. (*if* the source was amit, then that would be rather discrepant from the declaration that all updates will be given via the cloudtag website - i.e. rather than in whispers 1:1 from amit.)

my suggestion would be that anyone who takes a call from amit should record the conversation, so that he could be held accountable in future for any promises made etc.

17:55, or, “presumably because” they know perfectly well that they can keep granting themselves repeated extensions of 6 months, over and over, for as long as they like, and it probably has slightly better optics than just granting themselves an infinite extension.

Yeah, all sounds like it’s heading to a really peaceful, collaborative, non-violent resolution to all those pesky SMO type problems very soon …. lucky old EUA, eh, to be operating in a jurisdiction ruled by such wise, reflective folks who respect the rule of law.

1982investor, no such date is stated on cloudtag’s own website.

Chimers, if apple, or anybody else whatsoever, had actually completed a deal with CTAG to buy something CTAG had to sell, then there would be no reason whatsoever why CTAG couldn’t just say, yes, sale completed but the buyer has asked us not to disclose their identity yet, but in the meantime here is your share of the money the buyer has paid us, enjoy!

CTAG holders don’t need to know or care who amit has sold to, they would just want to receive their payout. (if the buyer wants to save their press releases for a later date, then so what, who cares? - should not be cloudtag’s problem.)

but it’s just fantasy land. there has never been the slightest bit of independently verifiable evidence that cloudtag has any kind of IP / asset / product / service that is worth anything of significance.

amit claims to know the date by which this supposed buyer has confirmed they will have completed as their latest date, although buyer supposedly reserves right to announce the deal sooner if they choose. … but amit hasn’t told shareholders what that date is. ? why? …if it’s meant to be a binding, agreed ‘latest by’ deal date, then why wouldn’t amit tell cloudtag shareholders, and then if for some weird reason the buyer fails to meet that date, amit can sue them for damages/breach of contract to get payout for shareholders.

utterly unbelievable nonsense.

Speaking of that bet, has IKN told Mr_Wolfe yet which charity mr w should pay to, if IKN is correct and sale is announced by sept 1st? — i recall seeing mr w nominate his preferred charity, but don’t think IKN responded in kind yet.

“Knowledge and interpretation of the facts”, … “in the absence of facts.”

yup, sounds like authentic EUA stylee.

Nope, i had the context about right… i was trying to think of pesky buyers who are ********, & who keep returning to make stupid top-ups, and so his name sprang naturally to mind.

… property market woes …