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Hi Lending. I'm reasonably happy that about £3.80p works, given where we are at (today) with the numbers side of things. I have then paired that back to about c.£3.40p given 'where we are at' in the world. The former may change at the next RNS, but the latter will not change this year. There will be no peace in the Ukraine and inflation will not be back under control in 2022. That, effectively is why I think that a c.£4/£4.20p year end would be a great result; but it's not going to be easy. Happy to be quoted at year end, that DT will certainly NOT be £4.50p! ATB :)

Meant to read "move by 20% this week"

This will not move by w0% this week. There is no chance that this will hit £4 any day soon. Sorry but it just won't, as its pretty close to what it's worth already. Even your fanciful dreamers Berenberg, reduced (as I told you they would) their joke Target Price by a whopping 40% - which quite frankly, is a highly embarrassing climb-down! I maintain a c.£4.20p by the end of the year - hopefully - as that's a very good increase from here.

Taken from The Daily Mail this morning. . . https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/investing/article-11020693/STOCKS-WATCH-653m-wolves-Aston-Martins-door.html

You guys need to stop wishing your lives away with constantly trying to second guess a possible RNS here! It has never performed particularly well following one, so why constantly bark on about it? It could fall just as easily as it could rise even if pne does appear. This share has been a struggle since October and I for one, do not see any 'magic wand' RNS changing things very much (+/- 40p). Stare at a tap for long enough and all that . . . .

That was meant to read, “from today’s Daily Mail” of course. . . :)

It’s not a DT thing. It’s bigger than that; much bigger. This pretty much explains it - from today’s Daily https://www.dailymail.co.uk/money/markets/article-10970877/10trillion-wiped-global-stock-markets-beginning-2020.html

I get what you're saying, but bottom fishing is hellish hard to get right. For me, buying in 2023 makes more sense - irrespective of the various 'what if' arguments; when the world 'should' be in a better place. I'm not a patient person especially, but this year I have been both patient and disciplined - and it has saved me a ton of needlessly wasted (by hugely over-paying for shares over the last four months) money. I'm grateful at least for that!

Given the massive head-winds, this is why I have a £4 > £4.30p year end target. Whatever the results, the bulk of any gains will, very likely, be surrendered by these tough head winds. People are fooling themselves if they think that this will race away next month, with good results; it just won't. Better to be Conservative and look to a better 2023. This year is a write-off! I have been bearish here since last summer, with good reason. That said, DT is still holding up better than 75% of equities, listed here in the UK! Blood Bath springs to mind! ATB :)

Of my ISA by July and I’m SO glad that I haven’t either, as equities are a terrible investment at present. Yes, of course you can go down the “it’s a long term investment” route, so it doesn’t matter. But it does matter - a lot, as you could have spent £15 on Carnival, for example, just six months ago; but had you waited, you would now be paying over 50% less now. And they have plenty further to fall. Aston Martin shares are still falling and now over 90% down (and likely to fall further yet). The market is literally awash with similar bombed-out shares. Keep your powder dry folks, as this is a nasty Bear Market, which is here for at least another year - in my opinion. You WILL be paying too much if you buy equities any time soon. Just sit on your cash, even through to next year if needs be. The more you pay now, the longer it will take you, just to get back to that price! This is just not the time to be trying to be ‘bottom fish’, as likely as not, it won’t be the bottom!! So many are doing exactly that at present and are being badly burnt in the process. . . . Good Luck all. :)

Bottom line is this. If you had bought these on the date that they floated, you'd be up by 3p! Spend wisely my friends! :)

That said, the next results are going to be absolutely crucial. If good, then we should move to c. £4.50p. At that point, I expect it to be difficult to move much higher. ATB

Spot on. It's a rather embarrasing U-turn for Berenberg's for sure! Onwards and upwards as they say. . . .

What did I tell you! I KNEW they would reduce it (as I wrote here months ago). Bunch of idiots; too late for me anyway, as they have lost all credibility. . . .

Let's hope so, as this really needs a booster; to get away from the c.£3 level - once and (hopefully) for all. . . ATB

Relax! But, I'm not sure how you 'de-ramp' a share that has by itself, fallen consistently (with the exception of 2 weeks in February) since October 2022. No need to de-ramp this one, as it falls all on its own! The Brokers are a joke; that was my point. Anyway, it will do what it wants, irrespective of them; and most certainly us....ATB

All we need now, is someone to come up with a Target Price of £7 and we've got all our bases covered - from £3.20p through to £10. A very re-assuring spread of guesses . . . hilarious!

Wow. If you had bought these in your 2022/2023 ISA you would already be down just shy of £1.50p on each share! Ouch. Not quite what Charles was saying! He just made it up, to suit his Fantasy Share Portfolio of nailed on shares to "rocket" in price! Hopefully, nobody else got sucked in to his and his much lauded Berenberg £10 bullcarp!!!

NewKOTB fair comments, but I am only talking about turning in a Full Financial Year profit. The rest is a bit of a smoke screen. Full Year Profit will richly enable The City to better value this company; which at present very clearly they cannot (Brokers are making it up as they go!). The City tends to go by that, as any six month period (or quarter come to that) can blow a full year apart, however strong a start it might have had. Fortunately, we don't suffer from 'seasonal' issues, which is helpful (eg airlines, retail etc.). Hopefully we will turn a full year profit; time will tell. . . .

Until it turns a profit, I reckon it remains unattractive to the large Institutions. No dividend any time soon (years away), only exacerbates the situation. This was always going to take a long time. Forget 2022 as it's just not going to happen, if being honest. . .but yes, Darktrace has been a very poor investment for just about everyone. And as for Berenberg and their ridiculous £10 Target Price! What a bunch of idiots. . .