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Obviously, someone knows something that you and I are not privy to!

I agree. This business is a hostage to circumstance, and the running costs exacerbate its problems. At what price (given the current travails will persist for some time yet) does a greedy gambler take a punt? At what price does a calculated investor take a punt? At what price do you take a punt and blindly hope for the best?

This has damn bad luck written all over it!

Outside of the automated systems and perhaps some institutions burning through other peoples' money, you're probably the only one aching to buy more here!. I would heed the admonitions of Metamorphosis84 and sell, not buy - at least for the present time. But each to their own.

Bargain would be in the 24p - 28p range. Time will tell. I am not invested here so only watching and waiting (which may be in vain!)

Not while the coronavirus is running amok about the globe. After that, it comes down to someone with 'branding' imagination and a love of cars wanting to take on a project for the sheer fun and love of it. The ideal would be Tesla - but that company is totally focused on its own brand and modelling paradigm. Perhaps you can take on the project when then price hits double digits!?

I agree. Woodford's travails have been a major factor here. Bad luck seems to have set on his rather ferociously of late. I feel that he overestimated his abilities and underplayed luck in a lot of his (past) fortunes. The gods don't like hubris. They reserve that for themselves!

I respect the positive opinions here and it's healthy to be sanguine, but in this instance I have to take the opposite view. I'm sorry about that. And bear in mind this is only my opinion. Good luck to all.

People are not going to stop drinking. They are not going to stop smoking. And they are not going to stop gambling. These 3 'temptations' give so many relief is a stressful world that no government is doing anything to address and indeed exacerbating in order to divert attention from their own foibles, failings, and skulduggery.

This stock was at 337p a month ago. That's over a 20 per cent drop. What am I missing here?

Perhaps this company should just go into administration, following on the heels of an actual producer of goods i.e. British Steel.

Lifeisarisk - Only companies stateside? Are you on stoned!? Why is INDV at 41p? Why has it put aside hundreds of millions for for fines in lieu of paying dividends? What's all the drama about? This is exactly my point on blinkered thinking.

It's no wonder we PI's always end up being screwed by the big boys. We bury our heads in the sand when negative news hits while the big boys stategize themselves out of the mess or find ways to mitigate their losses while we engage in snidey snippets and invariably lose out. You go ahead and call me a mug and a weirdo. But I'll never blinker myself and lose again. You go ahead and cat call all you like and lose. He is s fool that filters out opinions or analyses because they differ from their own. And incidentally, I am a scientist too. It was reading all the reports of the opioid crisis in the scientific press that informed my opinion. I hope those who are down recover their losses - by whatever means. But I do caution those who ignore or dismiss the prevailing rage at companies profiting on misery. This is an inescapable fact that should not be ignored.

It's no wonder us PI always end up being screwed by the big boys. We bury our heads in the hands when negative news hits while tjbig boys stategize themselves out of the mess or miyige while we engage in snidey snippets and ulyimylosr out. You go ahead and call me a mug and a weirdo. Bug I'll never blinker myself and lose again. You go ahead and cat call and lose.

You should read how this opioid catastrophe had inflicted such misery on the USA. If you think these guys, private individuals, local and state administrations as well as the federal level, and couple that with any legal outcome that punishes on punitively implicates whatever company profited from this misery - when you real about real outcomes affecting real people who are full of self-righteous anger, you'll understand why this share can't gain reaction. The 'real' money worries about 'real' consequences. This is the only reason I am not invested here st these 'ultra-low' levels. But if I see a chance otherwise, and I am watching and reading BROADLY, then I will buy. I am not an idiot. People ignoring all facts generally are.

Legal precedent does not default to identical matches but is often employed as a 'leverage' argument. Ask any lawyer. I think you'll find I'm right. Otherwise, how can you account for the stock price getting stuck at the circa 42p level. It should otherwise be soaring back to over £5, never mind trivial 50p or £1 level. Something is pinning it down. And no one really believes it's all manipulation by a broker. They're crooks, sure, but they're not that smart.

Here is an article in today's NYT that may pertain to some aspects of the case INDV is confronting. - https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/02/health/insys-trial-verdict-kapoor.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

The earlier post by RMR1969 regarding the advice of legal counsel in respect of the potential fines likely to result from from the US government's case against INDV. On inspection it sounds logical. I don't think that per she is the thing troubling some investors/speculators. The problem, I think, is the basis of setting a precedent. In US as in UK law, if INDV settles with a fine for even $1, there is the likelihood of many thousands of private claims by individuals who will draw on that precedent. The risk is that any legal claim, if conceded or lost by INDV, will open the floodgates. That's the nature, and temptation, of legal precedent. It's why the PPI saga just ran on and on.

It eventually reached circa 36p, though a day later. - One poster made mention that 'two deramping pessimists' made no -show today. I assume this chap included me. Like every PI, I have been on the losing side of trades and lost cash. But one thing I will never do again is evade a gamut of views on a stock, positive, negative, and neutral. Take all into consideration because it is not only you who possess the attribute of a gut instinct. If I see a chance for a speculative trade, I will have a go. But as previously stated, I am an observe 'peeking' in now and again to see the price action.

I hope you're right. I'm only a curious observer here. I know the pain of losses and, while tragic, is great drama and a learning vehicle for investors to see how the speculation pros kick around a stock with a Damocles sword sweeping over its anxious head. Good luck to you. I hope your judgement and perseverance pays off.