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I don't know what others thought. But if UHL are the conglomerate head, and NH are part of that conglomerate I'd fully expect that to be the address for correspondence etc.

They are raising funds to progress their idea/business. Phe is part of their plan, in time if everything comes together there will be sites doing what they are selling potential investors.

Nothing strange with that, in my view anyway

Yup each to, lots to contemplate. Until we've got some figures then trying to value anything is pretty much impossible.

Ps, if you think the kiln is close to your year 11 art class clay model, I'll not be getting you to fix my heating lol.

I've alrrsdy looked last week after the UHL link surfaced.

Google map street view a great invention.

Ah, I see Patx.

Suppose an office only needs to be big enough for a few work stations, a meeting table, toilet and coffee machine lol.

At the end of the day it's a central business address, in these times of working from home I'm surprised it's actually so grand, must cost a bit to rent in Sydney city lol

Too cryptic for me Patx.

A rented property, I'm shocked (not) was expecting UHL to be working out of the opera house with staff enjoying the views of Harbour Bridge.

Can you explain your point for those of us who have not been through private investigator school.

Yup, similar 15 lives. Not seen phe mention biochar?, wondering if that's because phe are going for a revolving kiln?

Can recall something being said about a revolving kiln not needing stopped to clean out? Would that perhaps be the biochar bit?

Have phe looked at things and rather a continuous self powering process with the output being purely energy as opposed to what patriot talk about with the biochar.

With the framework agreement between phe and NH (under the same umbrella as patriot) you'd think they would have been steered towards what was best for them.

Suppose there will be lots of businesses looking at waste to energy, room in the planet for them all I guess. Like choosing a car maybe. What exactly are you needing, hatch, boot, 4 doors, estate, fwd, hybrid, electric, petrol, diesel, convetable or hard top. Interesting share 15

That's a good question sykes, which I've absolutely no idea as to the correct answer.

Can only guess that he was selling while telling others to "fill their boots" in order to maximise his return.

Will his utopia outfit have similar tech? There is a joint venture where at a previous presentation Paul and their spokesperson said they had not decided yet what tech would be used.

You'd assume that everyone who is on the same road will be using similar tech, however phe does have the patent and euro grant in the pipeline so perhaps have a head start, and if all goes to plan at the pilot plant will be looked upon favourably by potential customers.

Why did Howard not just continue along with the phe guys? I've no idea. That would be good if someone could offer a known reason.

Although the whites have a large share holding, you'd think that they would rather sell for 2p than 1p, so if it's them selling why now, why not then and why not wait until nearer validation time.

Probably many reasons as to why all the above points. Doubt anyone has the factual answer from the horses mouth though.

Just looking through the message board and it looks like there's only 5 or 6 posters got anything to say / add.

Surely must be some others that can have some input just to freshen things up a bit, who knows, might even highlight something that the 6 have missed lol.

No it will be 0.5p next week 2p next week pure guesswork rubbish. Structured, sensible posts only please.

cmon patx, he's not going to turn around if you asked that question and reply "no, it's sh*" e.

it's what was ordered so i'm sure the answer would be "yes".

watching all the interviews paul has done so far the only things he's unhappy with (that i have taken from things) is that phe wasted a lot of time and effort due to the mdkl fiasco and the patent challenge. and that it means all the various supporting kit will arrive in a shorter time frame which ****ibly makes the site overly busy due to things being condensed as opposed to what would have been the plan at the beginning with a staged install/delivery etc.

kiln and patent challenge resolved so happy days.

You want me to come over I've got an excuse.

No excuses tomorrow at agm, looking for positivity now that kiln is on site. Should set up a time lapse of the build. Better than watching drab euro's anyways lol.

Yup red. I had 1.45 as about where I thought it might bounce back from. Always hard to gauge aim market as it can easily move 50% in a day on positive news, negative news and most bizarre on no news.

But based on the story so far I'm unhappy with sp, but comfortable in that it's more positive news in the pipeline than negative.

As regards to anyone telling folk to buy or sell, the facts should be presented along with anyone considering buying/selling/holding deciding for themselves based on what information is available.

For every positive post there can always be a "what if" counter argument. Like I said at initial post, unless kiln fails then I only see positive steps short, medium and longer term.

For the record, I 100% expect following commissioning phe prove that they have indeed validated their tech and that they have a working model which converts waste in to energy.

The benefits from that are

Reduced landfill

Energy from process

Meets fossil fuel agenda

All we need now is a sp to match potential lol.

Looking back over the last 6 months what's the key business progress so far.

Framework deal with National Hydrogen

Longford jv project

GB Patent granted

Challenge from Orunda resolved

European patent grant pending

Kiln delivered on site

That's a lot of progress during which time the sp has hit over 2p before the more recent fall. Annoying as it is, it's not on bad news which is the main thing. That's aim market for you.

Expect things to head north again once more positive news is released. In the meantime where that turning point is I do not know.

So what is next positives to come?

Euro patent grant

News on NH order?

Pilot plant install / commissioning

As for anything negative, unless the kiln fails then I honestly see nothing negative at this stage. That's not to say the sp can't head lower than today, but it's not for any "real reason of concern" if it does.

Haha red, if they've missed it I'm sure it will get picked up in plenty of time when the puwer assessment is conducted.

How's that laughable, the kiln has been delayed following the MDKL fiasco, without that it would have been in place and as the rest of the kit arrived it would have been installed.

Behind schedule but now 100% back on track with real progress being made.

Things will be heating up soon enough, and not just the TV.

Some laughable comments today regarding the AGM and the kiln install status. Ceo has advised that 4th qtr is still target for things so unless we're told different that's when we should expect some news on commissioning etc.

I'm surprised none of the naysayers have argued that the kiln picture is nothing more than a hologram.

All services etc etc were in place Paul told us in a recent interview, I don't think there will be too much trouble with the install as the various pieces shall be married together. With the kit all being new and obviously specced to suit then things will come together soon enough.

Obviously there will be some "fettling" to be done as assembly completes, that's to be expected and will be easily done by Engsolve.

Lol, we seem to agree on quite a lot once we have had the chance to debate/discuss/dissect each other's thoughts and comments. For me getting rid of plastic waste is also what initially had me hooked. The fact that there is a bonus on top of that in power and energy only compounds my interest further.

Where the sp goes between now and the day before an official announcement on the pilot plant success is anyone's guess.

Being fully convinced by every bit of research I've done, combined with all the various presentations I've watched, the questions I've asked people who I trust and know will have a good understanding of what phe are attempting along with the fact almost every part has been already proven, has me frustrated at the current sp, but has me quietly confident that longer term buying at current prices will carry a reward. Would be nice to have some other news meantime to support things lol.

That's a fairly constructed response 15

I'd add to that by saying that how much knowledge, experience etc etc he has in Hydrogen is neither here nor there as he is infact there to support things in a financial sense, the tech guys will be who matter most at phe as it will be them that prove the process, and in doing so demonstrate it's value.

I'm not sure everything does revolve purely around the framework deal / agreement with NH. if the pilot plant is successful and proves that phe can get rid of plastic, have hydrogen as an output, create waste to energy which can be used elsewhere and all under a self sustaining process where after start up the syngas can in part be used to fuel the process then it's gotta make a lot of possible investors / suitors/ customers take note. Surely?

What. Does not make sense.

When. I do not know, but it's in progress

Why. Because it's a positive part in the overall story behind phe and their future growth.

Seems like along with a few others you'd rather try and turn a positive in to a negative by ignoring what is obviously good news when looking at the bigger picture, and constantly trying to focus on what is still to do rather than what has been acheived lately.

Maybe you would be better investing in premium bonds or a guaranteed high interest savings account such is your apparant level of concern, distrust, doubt and overall lack of faith in things. Why waste time trawling phe chat sites all day offering nothing much more than lobbing grenades at anything that others consider slightly positive.

I don't for one minute feel it's a genuine attempt to create debate and discussion, but simply a means to further try and downbeat things.

Such is your concern you'd forgo possibly getting the chance for your doubts to get answered at the AGM because it's 5 hours away.

I'd consider that a must attend if I was either a concerned holder or a potential investor. That only leaves the professional nay sayers.

Yup Salop. Have now watched twice as sometimes once is not enough, 2nd time allows you to fully concentrate on parts where you can easily miss some detail as your mind makes sense of things.

I'd agree that Will seems a very astute character indeed. Already some questioning his credentials as having no background in Hydrogen Ffs.

That's akin to when they questioned Richard Branson as he only had a 2nd hand record shop. Deary me, whatever next.

Seems like NH2 will at some point benefit from their full support and that will bode well for PHE also.

Sounds like they are already very successful with their conglomerate and are obviously grabbing lots of attention.

For phe tech / process will not be down to luck. Your comments, for someone who claims to have a background in industry are looking more and more designed to cause fear.

If the phe tech works it will not be down to luck in any way, but down to science,engineering, physics, technology and the wider team involved.

Luck will play absolutely no part whatsoever, they're not tossing a coin to determine the kilns capabilities.