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Not sure what to make of the goings on with UHL 15.

I've seen 37 companies mentioned in their various posts, then 25, now on latest LinkedIn post it's back at over 30

When you click on links there is still the opportunity to invest with them so look to be still raising wonga.

A few mentions of some of their umbrella members and their progress, nothing NH2 yet so just need to await some news from them.

https://www.linkedin.com/company/united-hydrogen-limited/

Lol thaiger. That would explain their amount of sells needed. Price dentists charge is incredible.

Mind you, that's been a few days now since "big seller" was in town.

Be looking for any of the white family having Turkey Teeth.

Nowt wrong with that dusty, I've already said I wish I'd sold half at 2p with a hefty profit and then either used that to get more at a far cheaper price (like now). Or used them funds elsewhere and watched the 50% I'd left with less risk involved.

Nothing is guaranteed in aim, (apart from volatility). I'm pretty sure we'll see 2p at least again. Might get another chance of 50% free carry.

Thanks tatty.

Maybe I'll start a subscription podcast with the days highlights / lowlights for equally busy professionals such as yourself.

Fare exchange for that cool link you shared about the energy network thingy.

Views will always be honest, I want price to go up but will only post reasoned opinion / challenge / discussion based on what info and knowledge or understanding I have gained from research and from life experience where some things can possibly be used as a cross reference.

No one knows what's going to be the outcome, we can all have a wild stab in the dark at sp in 2025, how many plants might be in operation, or how much revenue will be created.

It's all speculative at best, and only on validation and full testing where results can be released, can we make an informed argument.

Lots of potential, I do think it will be a successful commissioning, value going forward? No idea, at this moment in time. But will stick at 2.5p at year end should commissioning be ongoing or awaiting info on results.

Haha dusty

Decided that there was no point in spending time throughout the day checking what was being posted/discussed, but would instead have a quick look at the close just incase I missed something.

As expected not much, in the positive corner castle sharing the same links and suggesting we might have bottomed?

However in the negative corner there appears to be quite an effort to pour continued scorn on phe with typical dismissive tones.

Had not even got to 05:00 before the 1st reference to doubting the framework agreement. (even though officially rns'd and link to law firm involved already shared)

Then we've had the AGM questions debate with accompanying back slapping (option was there for anyone to attend, but no rather sow the seeds of doubt)

Then the old returning China having similar and getting there first.

Be short of buyers soon, but to top things of we had Rocketman telling us that the welds on the kiln were of a poor standard and that he hoped no one got hurt on start up.

So all in all what an absolute load of crap, I've drawn my conclusions on almost all those who post on the forum in that the only source of meaningful information will come via rns.

Unless a proven waste plastics to energy engineer with kiln manufacturing expertise and a history of drawing up legally binding contracts and funding facilities makes themselves known.

What is most amusing however is that the price actually climbed even on news the big seller is still alive lol.

2.5p by Xmas that's for you Castle. Lol

That would be my view on things also red.

Why take the harder and more costly option and everything that goes with it when a simple licence royalties model could provide a steady income.

We'll need to wait on pilot plant up and running before we get some proven numbers with what's possible and then go from there with regards to "full scale model", and what value phe can then then demonstrate.

If it ends up a fairly straightforward investment decision for customers to take, where they can expect decent returns, reduced energy costs and maybe even hydrogen to sell on then that would be my route to take for sure

I fully understand that, and I actually agree. It has to work, same as anything.

I just honestly feel that such is the nature of the whole waste plastic to energy story that on a possible validation of the whole concept, there will be lots of interested parties looking to get involved.

The business will offcourse need to be funded, but with licence and royalties being the target, and Engsolve fully involved in projects then I don't see it as being something that requires constant dilution or fund raising.

They've already stated their plans so the way I see it this. (post validation) assuming all is as hoped for.

Process validated

Potential customers begin discussions

Terms agreed

Procurement process begins

Engsolve involved at various stages (paid for by customer)

Plants operational

Licence / Royalties paid to phe

Me going to Ferrari garage lol

Last part is a joke.

I've time to wait, does not need to all come together tomorrow, but if and when it does there's a good chance the valuation shall be far higher than today.

That's fine dusty. Be a far poorer world if everyone, everywhere agreed on everything.

I've no connection with the ceo other than being a share holder, still a way to go before saying I was a fan, but since he stepped in to the role there has been some decent progres so I've no reason to be critical yet

Long may that continue I might add.

Get your point, but I'm not blinkered by the pilot plant making £5000,00 per annum.

If the whole project is a success, then I'm more looking longer term at what else will generate value and sp growth.

Licence, royalties etc. It's a big world out there that needs a lot of energy to operate, along with a lot of waste created along the way.

That's my overall thoughts on things, looking at the pilot plant in isolation is in my eyes somewhat short sighted.

Not saying it's the same thing with the same outcome, but when the Costa brothers turned up in London in the early 70's selling their product to a handful of folk, I imagine they never turned over that much in the early days from their one premises.

Anything is possible, if they prove the process at the pilot plant then it being able to turn over £500,000 is just the beginning

4th qtr. Lol

Hi Dusty. Not sure the relevance in how long I've been invested in phe.

I could say anything anyways, so it's a pointless question.

It's dismissive because what do you expect from the ceo, a personal reply to every email he gets telling the sender he will guarantee that the sp will be 10p in the 5th qtr.

I've no idea what you are looking for, but try asking the same question to the ceo of BP, LLOYDS, RR, TESCO, MNG, etc etc etc. You'd get the same reply. Nothing.

It's not that I wouldn't dare, but what's the point. Any official news that can affect the sp would need to be via a rns.

Paul does not control the sp, same as every other ceo in the world. So apart from phe delivering progress then being - 5 - 25 - 50 or + the same amounts is not under his control.

That's a rather typically stupid post. I've no doubt you know exactly what Paul is meaning by the - 5% emails. And is probably why he keeps away from the lse group chat. Much the same as many professional footballers keep away from social media because of the abuse they get

For anyone reading that might be needing clarification on what I'm meaning.

The - 5% is likely just a number used to highlight the kinda idiotic emails he gets sent and why he opts to ignore chat sites.

For the record it was not me that sent them, and I also never sent any whilst the sp was climbing 300%+ from 0. 5 to over 2p.

It's what to expect of the aim market, spikes up and down with news/no news. Before folks "placing their bets" as commissioning commences.

Yup, I thought you were meaning £ not shares. 100,000 shares is peanuts haha.

If you've any more, stop selling please lol.

Cheers 15, I know exactly how aim works

There are some diamonds out there, but some coal dust also lol.

Crazy valuations at times, but if market wants to say phe shares are 10p on Monday I'll not argue lol.

Been stung in past with likes of he1 and some others. Can't remember what one of them was even called now but main man was giving it the "champagne is on ice" quotes on final interview before reaching the final depth of their drill of East Timor. Surprise Surprise, even with all his experience working in that area for the super majors it was non commercial. You know what happens then.

My positivity with phe is that it's not really so much guess work and hit or miss, it's science, some fairly basic kit and a wee bit of their sorcery to make it something being "in on".

No castle, not any longer. Fine machines though. Now have a m3.

Yup 15. I have bought from 0.8 up to 1.8 and different quantities.

Do I wish I'd bought at 0.5 and sold at 2p? Your dam right I do, but if I had, I'd more than likely bought back in by now as I was not expecting it to drop quite as low based on recent progress / news.

But on a 300% profit I'd probably have taken the "safe" option, protected my profits and re-invested half and kept half on the sidelines as cash.

That's OK 15, I'm hoping to live that long at least.

Remember, the valuation of any business is not only on today, but where it might be in future.

Based on that then there's much more potential for sp growth in phe than there is in an already established business where there's a steady 5% divi or sp growth / annum.

But it comes down to risk / reward. If it's not for you then I respect your continued "what, when, how, who" type open questions, but I'll say it again. I'm content, unhappy with current sp, but encouraged greatly by recent progress and what's to come.