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Nice one Castle, apart from the rns regarding the agreement / deal, I've not actually seen anything from the legal partners.

I'm confident anyways, but you'd need to have more than a brass neck to call in to question their professionalism / expertise etc.

I think we can all take some comfort in knowing that all legal aspects of the contract will be thorough, and we can look forward to the actual order being signed off. Next week, next month. It's just a matter of time.

Think we've got crossed wires?

I'm thinking 100k in £ not shares.

I'm not worried, but if it's £ it's a sizable chunk regardless.

That's a sizable amount Geo. Over 100k.

Stop it lol

Lol. Perhaps I'm being a tad suspicious.

But always a bit sceptical of that "new poster" bearing words of warning

As for dumpng shares, I was not meaning 20,30k worth. I'm talking about them really big sells. (forgive me if you dumped 100k worth)

Questionable account partners, what a statement that is.

Active energy, as I've pointed out in a previous post, phe are waste to energy from plastic, active were as far as I've read using organic materials. Plastic being derived from fossil fuel will be a different animal altogether.

Fare point Castle, Spain already very well served by solar and wind for creating electricity, however it's absolutely an avenue for consideration.

Anything that can support phe going forward would be a good thing

Hiya Castle.

Phe are looking to turn waste plastic etc in to energy, don't think the actual recycling back in to plastic pellets or whatever is in their plans.

Possibly something they could consider but there will be others already doing it, power from waste is the main thing still in my eyes.

Will do 15. I've found what I thought might be the person by a bit of detective work through scotgen on LinkedIn

Checking his posts / comments though there's nothing coming up.

Strange I'm pretty certain it's the same person. One Finnish name does look like the others though lol.

I'm trying another route though. See what happens

Lol 15. Was Joe involved?

Had a look at that 15, very interesting stuff indeed. What I've taken from it is that the problems has been in trying to use a mixed feedstock and certain other sources.

Now with phe they seem to favour plastic, which with it being derived from oil, I'm no chemist but it would make a lot of sense to me if it were much easier and more controllable to process than an old kettle, a kitchen sink, a bag full of dog shi*, yesterday's dinnertime leftovers and some other everyday throwaway items

Now I might be completely wrong but that seems to be what they've been doing via the carbolite in the lab? We shall see.

For the record, and I promise this is something that I seen recently. The report that gets brought up when googling that air products failure, along with a few others mentions scotgen.

A few weeks ago I seen something on LinkedIn where someone that was involved with that site (can't remember his name but it looked Finnish) was very critical of why the plant ended up having its licence revoked.

He went on in some detail to explain his involvement, experience and knowledge of gasification and finished with a bit of a blast at what was "the real reason" it failed. It read to me that he was saying there was something underhand about the whole thing.

I'll try and find the piece again, if I do I will share the link. I actually looked for it a few days ago because after watching a phe interview on proactive it came to mind.

I'll have a look at that 15

Should be interesting, they can put a man on the moon and bring him back for less £

Who was in charge of their project I wonder. Sunak, Starmer & Swinney lol.

Hiya 15. Comprehensive reply, welcomed regardless of how it compares to everyone else's thoughts.

I've never mentioned a sp of 12p, I have however suggested that during commission stage I feel 2.5p is possible

The figures from the AGM and the work from others suggesting a sp at 1.75p as realistic is fine by me, I do however feel that there is potentially much more to consider than just a few initial sites, but going forward what could be the picture a few years down the road.

As for air products. Apart from seeing their trucks when they've delivered at places I've worked in the past I've no idea about what they have or have not attempted and withdrew from. I am however surprised if the products they produce are from the gasification process of waste plastic. However like I say, I've no idea what they do really so perhaps they have attempted something similar?

No red, it was more on the back of the post yesterday from ptax where he posted the cryptic response to my comments about no reported delayed trades on AGM day.

I'm unsure who was dumping, but it appears to have stopped. Hopefully 1.2p or thereabouts is as low as whoever it was is willing to take.

I've re-read the rns regarding patent once again just to ensure I've not misunderstood or missed anything. And I've not, so hence my positivity. Not a fan of cut and paste as I prefer to use my own knowledge or words when trying to share my viewpoint, however in this instance the rns is the only source to be considered.

This patent gives intellectual property protection in the UK around the utilisation of recirculated synthesis gas to heat one or more chambers and the utilisation of recirculated synthesis gas to provide electrical power via a gas generator to increase the efficiency of the process and allow the process to be "self-sustaining" when in operation, by removing the reliance on an external gas source.

Imagine if the above could be retro-fitted (which I've no idea if it could). That could have a huge impact on valuation.

Thanks red for having a reply with your thoughts. No one else so either no one has a reasoned argument, no one is bothered, or there's only a very few posters even looking lol.

The reason I'm confident is that apart from using the gas for self sustaining energy required for the process it's quite simple. The different feedstock requiring the programming change is I'd expect not too complex either? Temp, Speed, Time, Pressure what else could it be controlling?

Day 2 without any delayed trades showing.

Does that mean the AGM is still going on, draw your own conclusion to what others

imply and their motives.

Where £ is involved it's "normal" that some folk will try and drive price up or down by their actions.

Anyone invested in, or thinking about investing in phe should do so based on all the factual information they can find through their own research, along with using chat room posts as a source of opinion or thoughts which should also be fully challenged to try and determine what is closest to the truth or most likely outcome.

I'm invested, believe that phe will prove their tech, and that there is a huge market and potential for the company going forward.

However I've no idea what that might look like as a future market cap and sp until a full size model running at optimum levels can be used as a measure. Even then you'd then have to consider how many units potentially worldwide phe could end up receiving a licence / royalty from.

That is a total unknown, but based on figures from AGM I'd think could easily mean the valuation goes somewhat higher than the close today.

Not a single peep after 3 hours to convince me on why phe process / tech will not work, has been a change though that it's now the incertitude and incredulity with the figures coming from the AGM that's being used to turn positivity to negativity.

All very telling? We shall see.

What is it that some think will not / might not work and why. Breaking the question in to the process.

So we have feed stock. I'd think quite a simple set up with material fed via conveyor or something so can't see any problems.

The kiln, Tried and tested kit, nothing new about them, fairly simple with few moving parts, low maintenance and simple operating system.

Gasification/ Calcination. I challenge anyone to prove chemistry/science as being wrong.

Waste to energy same challenge, prove to me why that might fail. Work's the world over.

That leaves phe patent tech. I'm open to folk explaining why that might fail. They've been working on it for years, I'm convinced they'll have "fettled it"

Ah, that's clarified things Patx. Was a bit confused with what promises you had.

I hope you get your 70k back and more wherever it might come from, nothing nice about losing £

What promises has there been so far ptax. The fact you declare to have a background in O&G along with pharma is irrelevant.

Again, we're talking about a kiln which will be pretty much standard tried and tested kit, with some phe tech that they have patent on that makes it that little bit different.

So back to the promises, I've not been promised anything, not sure who has, or by whom.

The only thing that seems to be guaranteed is you casting doom with your own guarantees.

Intimately? What does that even mean Patx.

You've that many questions you would have been better served making the effort and attending the AGM.

Have not seen inside the kiln but I'd guess that it would be clearing out any feedstock before being "switched off for the day" by design.

That might occur simply by the design of the kiln ensuring feedstock simply flows from input to out put by set angle. Perhaps there's an inbuilt auger type system?

I don't know, but will repeat for the umpteenth time, rotary gas calcifiers have been on the go for years and years and are a well proven piece of kit.

It's the patent / tech that phe now have that's the difference. Until validation then your obviously going to continue throwing them doubt grenades on this site.

If you truly are that doubtful why not move on and invest in something more certain like the funeral business.

Good share H2ooooo