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Last night, on this board, someone posed an open question inviting people to post their best guess for the s.p come this morning. Mine was 1.5p. According to the charts, I can see it fell to somewhere around about 1.6p. Not a bad guess if I say so myself; should also mention that some awful ramping is taking place here at this moment...regrettably I have to add.

Same old Rampers busily ramping away; your rather spurious "facts" based upon nothing more than your own hopeful interpretations inspired by vague updates promising better times to come ...and still bashing anyone with a contrary view I see. This was, and always was, and remains (for the time being at least), nothing more than a punt. A shot in the dark. I continue to be a shareholder...but one who has'nt got his head buried in the ground. There are only two things assured in any persons life..."death and taxes". Certainly not copious amounts of hereto untapped oil bubbling away under the rolling hills of Georgia.

1.5p. And I will be elated to be wrong...will post on this site and admit I was wrong also.

Wheres all this happy horse **** come from? I most certainly hope it does reach 10p a share...I will have sold out long before then. 10p a share? I wish!

Undeniably, there is much in what you contend, Moxie...one Swallow a Summer does not make.

As a shareholder (long term for me) I truly do hope most fervently that RMG and the CWU can find some common ground upon which to start discussions...I have other reasons also which I will not divulge here.

This will be my last posting for a while...I have said all I am going to say regarding a possible strike and what could be the terrible consequences that ensue. No point in repeating myself over and over.

Good luck to all you genuine long term holders. And just remember this: the proverbial darkest hour...is the one just before the glorious new dawn. Cheers!

Even with everything going to hell all around us most on here still don't understand, or so it would seem (or should that be refuse to accept perhaps?) that not only is the threat of this strike very real but also the devastating effect it will have on the companies near to midterm fortunes...or considerably longer even.

If this escalates from what might be a series of "one shift per day - once a week " type strike action into a full-blown "all out together" strike, then I can assure each one of you...we will all be sat next to our T.Vs and laptops with our heads in our hands.

And it could get worse...a lot, lot worse. By then it would be a very intense situation indeed. Each side has powerful and persuasive demagogues to turn to; not least of all Rico Back and Terry Pullinger who are more than capable of issuing not just persuasive arguments or veiled threats but indeed the most vivid of out and out "Armageddon scenarios". Thus ensuring of course a greater stoking of the flames of what would undoubtedly turn into something nothing short of a roaring inferno. This could quite easily turn into a really, really desperate "fight-to-the death", "winner-takes-all" type contest of the most appalling kind...there would be no prize for second place in this fight. Just as Terry Pullinger recently quoted: "you might win, Rico...but we will be the best second you ever saw".

He was not just blowing wind when he made this comment or posturing in front of the camera to try and bolster up CWU membership support (as if he needed to) he was stating a FACT!! That fact being: if you (Royal Mail) are totally intent in attempting to completely change the structure of RMG without our general consensus, and in the process put thousands of people out of work...then we will fight tooth and claw to the finish.

A most horrible thought!! I shudder at the prospect...I truly do. And one final thought if I might. If it does go down the terrible road of full blown industrial action, and if the posties are, one by one, forced back to work by say...irate and enraged spouses, empty bank accounts, empty fridges...so on and so forth, what sort of working relationships would you then have within and throughout that workforce? Not just between the managers and their staff on the floor, but, more importantly, between the posties themselves? The aftermath of a fractured and vicious strike, putting aside the disastrous financial consequences for the company, as the posties returned to work piecemeal would be too awful to envision. Any comradeship, cohesion, and respect that formerly existed inside closely knit working units would be gone....and gone forever. And that is something that could take a generation or more to fix. What price this stock then I ask?

Yes indeed It is all rather civilized and pleasant at the moment...even though we might not agree exactly, or even remotely for that matter, with other persons every views, it would appear, right now at the very least, we can still behave cordially towards one and each other. But can we trust those certain "other" people, absent at this particular time, to behave just as? The jury is still out on that one I have to say.

It is very simple, Quinny29: the company are quite determined to have their own way about everything they intend to try and do regarding the proposed changes in respect to RMG...and, conversely, the CWU are just as determined to make sure this is not fully the case. If anyone can inform me where any common ground can be established here...I will be very interested to know?

P.s It is my opinion the company are trying to fight and win a P.R campaign...not engage in meaningful discussion with the CWU. I personally think that they are under the impression that if they can paint the CWU's motives as more political than internal, and, with the Labour Party's best interests at heart not the posties, then they, the company, can thus win the war of words out in the public domain. This might, then, through the old campaigning methods of "divide and conquer", force many posties to be rather reluctant to strike...therefore ensuring any proposed industrial action lacks any true backbone or bite.

Not, I have to say, a course of action I would endorse. This is now foolhardy brinkmanship in the extreme.

The company supplied two short videos for the "Work Time Learning" session last night...the combined footage did'nt last much longer than several minutes. One was a young lady repeating, verbatim, the same tired old phrase..."we have honoured our agreements, we want to work with the CWU", so on and so forth, the other was good ol Ricky boy, yet again I have to say, spouting almost the exact identical rubbish as the young lady beforehand. Talk about crassness and immaturity? If they (RMG) were truly serious in talking to the union they would make some positive statements, couple it with positive actions and then engage in genuine and meaningful discussions. In other words, instead of behaving like pretentious children...sit down with the CWU and argue it out like grown adults. This absolute one-sided tirade, about how their opinion AND only their opinion counts, coming from RMG is not cutting it with your average postie. They really are now standing right on the cliff-edge. My advice to RMG: do something now, right now...or we will have a bl00dy disaster on our hands. And I mean -- a bl00dy disaster!!!

no.

What I am really looking forward to is wolvesposty telling us how brave and noble he was when he passed all his (ex)mates on the picket line...but, of course, we all know there is not going to be a strike.

Why? Because, whether some people on here can accept it or not, Rico's toadies will be forced back to the negotiating table before that actually happens...and then there will be a reckoning I can tell you. And Isleworth and madasaballon can no doubt tell you all the same thing as well.

I have a question for Fruitster. If its not the imminent threat of a devastating and crippling strike being called by the CWU that is driving the share price back into the ground...what actually is it? Brexit is done and dusted don't forget. Perhaps it is those "mysterious" market forces you keep alluding too? Or perhaps the fairies at the bottom of the garden? Just curious that's all.

Still not convinced about any sustainable rise here to be honest. Going to sit on the fence, and my hands also, for a while yet; want to see compelling reasons when considering buying more shares even if it means buying at a much higher price than present. Cheers!

Not at all, PostmanPorsche. I am just here to warn those who might otherwise be naive (read that as stupid actually) or deluded enough to believe all the misleading and fancial cr@p that Redceo, JBTHISTLE and Fruitster have been spouting over the last several months or so...considerably longer in all reality. £5.50 in 2020 my fat @rse! That is worse than Fruitster's claims that the threat of a costly and disruptive strike has nothing to do with the collapsing share price. Jeeeezzzz! You just could'nt make it up.

I have a question for Fruitster. If its not the imminent threat of a devastating and crippling strike being called by the CWU that is driving the share price back into the ground...what actually is it? Brexit is done and dusted don't forget. Perhaps it is those "mysterious" market forces you keep alluding too? Or perhaps the fairies at the bottom of the garden? Just curious that's all.

No contest...the cat will absolutely p!ss it.

Why come here then, ARSENAL17? Why this self admonishing flagellation? All rather painful for you then...is it not?

1. If there is a one day strike per week (each individual shift in its entirety missing from the floor just once a week) the effects upon RMG's profitability will be massive.
2. Under these circumstances the posties will still get paid 80% of their wages...more than enough to live on.
3. The posties don't give a crap about the present share price...after all they are moping them up once a month at prices they can only have dreamed about a couple of years ago.
4. If it comes to a strike, each shift out once a week or an "all out brothers", they will more than likely still all have jobs when it is all over...this could not definitely be said of Rico and his toady-like board of smug, complacent chums.
5. Whatever the outcome, it IS going to cost RMG a lot of money. Either because of the huge costs involved in trying to keep the business just treading water during any sort of strike action, or/and the costs of any settlement with the CWU...and there, at some stage, WILL have to be a settlement.

And there, ARSENAL17, you have it. Just like wolvesposty had it a short while ago -- facts!!

Those who predicted, and several years ago at that I might well add, that this s.p was destined for thirty-something pence may well be right. Under a lot of pressure now.