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The pattern is: it starts going up - people think the tide is turning and fear missing the bottom - then of course it reverses.
Impossible to call the bottom.
Might start going up as we run up to ex-div date?

Has been downward since 2017. More than offsetting the dividend.
On that basis - is it a buy?

Well if we can get to 310 then - then - I'm a banana.

It seems to me that almost everything is being steadily derated.
Would consider this a buy at around £4 maybe.
Of course if I wait it won't get there. If I buy now it will. That's a dead cert on everything. Funny that.

Dare I say hope seems to be returning?!

Never sell Shell and reinvest the dividends.
The chances of selling on a high and rebuying on a low I think are slim. You can only see that It would have worked with hindsight.

Think I predicted 113p recently, but almost any number will be hit sooner or later.
A truism for me at least is that no matter what price I buy at the market will take it lower.
I would look really stupid if I listed all the shares I own and how much I've lost on them.
It's only dividend stocks that offer any kind of solace. At least VOD is one of them but as I've said before it doesn't compensate for the relentless sp decline. Looked like there was a bit of really a while back but I'm sure that was down to the market sucking people in which is of course how it works.

Of course it could decline but it looks like big oil is still the place to be at least for the time being.
As far as the overall market is concerned I'm wondering whether the old adage that it always comes back might be a thing of the past. Current world problems are getting worse. Things like the financial crash are more fixable than what we are seeing with international issues.

Robleo I agree with you on the funds. It angers me that the fund managers - even the 'star' ones - seem to have just sat on declining shares and not done anything to protect the portfolio.
LGEN looks good value again. not sure how much the declining £ affects them and other domestic UK income stocks.

I added today hoping that it won't go any lower.
Just keep for the dividends I think.
Hopefully not the sort of business that can crash suddenly.......

I suspect there is a tier of people who use the mobile phone for everything and another who just chat and waste time on social media.
Anyway, the fact remains that price competition squeezes margins.
Brokers till have daft targets. Where do they think improvements leading to 20% or more sp uplift will come from?
Wonder what would happen if Emirates Telecom bid for the whole of Vodafone?

I'm left wondering what drove the uptrend since May? Anyway we are knocked back now. Obvious risk people have to start giving up their mobile phone contracts. I'm still guessing 110 but that's as helpful as a spin on tombola. My long term fear remains at 90p. That way even with the dividend and inflation I can never break even.

Well back to VOD if I may: next stop 110?
There really seems to be no upside here with dividends not compensating for the sp decline and inflation.
Shouldv'e bailed a while back at 140, but of course I'm a dolt.

With the OP falling I can't see why the BP sp is still rising?!

Rob - a pity for me that I'm never able to capitalise on my prescience. The quantum measurement effect always comes into play.

There we are - I've driven it up.

Looking back 2 years bottoms have been 103,113,118 so this could be regarded as an uptrend.
Main challenges are of course the debt, mobile competition and endless world issues affecting the overall market.
I still regard this is mainly a trading stock, although if you can get in at one of the bottoms like the current one it can be held as a dividend stock like a bond.
My personal annoyance is having an average breakeven price of around 130 and it keeps getting knocked back. Should have sold when it moved to 140ish.
Again looking at the chart, it suggests 130+ may be possible again - barring the impacts of the risks I listed.
Tempted to do a little top up maybe next week. Of course if I wait it'll probably go up in the meantime. I'm sure there's a bot that reads my comments and feeds into the sp accordingly.

I think they already pay 65% on profits but then the govt adds VAT to an already surging price - like the mafia.

Look at HILS after a good update too.

There seems to be this perverse thing going on of clobbering a good update. Same with Keller.