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antelope, are you asking about proof that the prototype works? That has undergone lots of testing, although we investors don't have the details.

I agree Newboy. There is a huge difference between the consequences of a general election and the consequences of of a referendum. Perhaps some people didn't think about it in that way.

Good interviews on both Proactive and Vox. When he says planning & permitting within the next 30-45 days, does he mean planning permission? I assumed that, but wasn't sure. He seems to be sticking to the timeline so far anyway. Some posters on here, including myself, were doubtful about whether he could hit his target of "breaking ground" on the site in April, mainly because that depends on getting planning permission and the final signing of the lease. I guess we'll just have to wait and see!

If you think the negativity is bad on here, it's ten times worse on one of the other BBs.

rossannan, the answer to that is in the timeline that the company has already given us. Whether they are able to stick to that is another matter, but that is all we have to go on for now. And it is: - breaking ground on the first site April (looking less likely at the moment, but that's the timeline we've been given). - first commercial G3 unit up and running before the end of this year. At that point it will stop being an R&D company and become a commercial company.

lets get that commercial G3 unit on the road!

I don't see why this is a disconnect at all. PHE is an R&D development company, with a prototype system but not yet a commercial system, with an MOU (non-binding) in the event that they produce a commercial unit. Surely that is the right order of events? They can't have a binding contract because so far they don't have a commercial system. And surely it is good to know that potential customers are interested in the technology at this stage?

Just had a reply from WH Ireland in response to my email regarding the auditors' resignation, advising that there is nothing untoward in this, just that PHE has chosen to appoint a new auditor.

Why do some people have a problem with using plastics and tyres? Given the recent publicity about the environmental issues with these waste items, and as they produce very high outputs of electricity and/or hydrogen, it seems to me a very logical sensible viable business route to take.

What we need now is an update on the planning / development of the site, and the G3 unit. I'm hoping we get something shortly.

How many acres would we need for that?

balman, I agree, I still believe that the first G3 will be at Protos. In fact perhaps the first 5 x G3s. My previous post about Hooton Park was rather tongue in cheek!

So the first G3 site may not be at Protos after all, it may at Hooton Park: http://www.peelenvironmental.co.uk/development/hooton Planning permission secured for a waste treatment use. Current Progress: The site is currently being developed for the reception and processing of 400,000 tpa of a variety of wastes with energy recovery using gasification technology.

I didn't understand that either, balman. It seemed fairly obvious to me at the time, and to others on this BB, that he was talking about Protos, and as you say that wasn't exactly a secret.

I wish my losses were as small as that!

Thanks Jabber. Not many CEOs that would be prepared to talk to shareholders and answer questions.

I was aware that there have been several failures, but that doesn't necessarily mean that PHE will fail. Each on it's own merit. Surely with all of those past failures, many lessons will have been learned, so that ultimately someone will have success. As for Bond, I believe he has sold out because he badly needs the cash. I think you are already aware of that?

Now I may be wrong about this, but this is my understanding about the chamber. I believe that the chamber in the Pyromex system failed because of the ultra high temperature, which clearly meant that it was of no use for gasification at UHT. Under these circumstances many companies / management teams would have thrown in the towel and gone home. But KA and his team went back to the drawing board determined to overcome the problem, and developed a new chamber using a special ceramic formula. This is the chamber that is currently being used in the G3 prototype at Thornton Park. The failed Pyromex system also provided them with a lot of invaluable data that has been used to create an improved gasifier in the G3. So far, as far as I know, the G3 chamber has been able to withstand the ultra high operating temperatures that it has been subjected to. There have been many comments on this BB (and indeed on other BBs) that the chamber has not been sufficiently tested and verified, with calls for it to be kept running on a constant basis over a long period of time. And to be fair we don't know how long it has been kept running without stopping. Some claim that the longest continuous period has been 36 hours, but PHE could very well have been running the G3 for much longer periods that that, without reporting it to us. In any case, KA has stated on more than one occasion that the greatest stress on the system and in particular the chamber is when it is switched on and off i.e heating up and cooling down. That seems to make sense to me. So if the chamber is going to fail, it is most likely to happen when being powered up and powered down on a frequent basis. And we have been told that this is has been done in order to test the durability not only of the chamber but of the entire system. Of course none of us know the full details of the testing, and I agree that knowing such detail would be essential for shareholder confidence. But I'm quite sure that this matter will have been discussed fully with Peel, potential partners and potential customers. And surely it is wrong for anyone to claim that critical testing has not taken place, because we don't know that.

The rig can't start to mobilise until 60 days after COSL receive the upfront payment of $3M from SRSP. SRSP would not have been able to make that payment until after they got authorisation at the GM on 18th December. So the 60 days will be up at the beginning of next week. It was unrealistic to expect the rig to start moving before next week.

' I have made my point.' What point, pomander? Never mind, I agree that we should move on, anyway.