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Without some good news we cannot see the SP going to a premium to the NAV and we must patiently wait while it lingers between 8p and 9.25p.
Will try and look in again at the weekend to read your latest comments, unless a nice RNS appears when I will read your feelings about it.

We have been saying for a long time that we need some figures from Leap, am very suspicious about this big figures talk with no official news. Think we may all be in for a bit of a disappointment, hope not but we must be aware it could be not as good as we hoped. For months we have been saying we need to know what profit etc Leap are making on their sales. Hopefully our concerns will not come to fortition and they are worth a lot of pennies. We could really do with a windfall from Leap to enable us to buy that second home near my daughter, as while unwell my self I am having to give my better half 24 hours care, was up all last night with her. So as you can imagine I have better things to worry about. I do get a break and look at the trades on the London stock Ex as this one seems to stop showing trades in the afternoon.
Best wishes to you all and hope we do get a decent return for our investment. Thank goodness our other investments have shown gains from 25% to 100% over the last 10 months. Pity we did not just stay with what we make money out of consistently instead of returning to AIM where we have never made a penny, so it is about time we did get a return from AIM. Fingers crossed for FFWD to take off.

It appears that the 250,000 trade at 11.20 (displayed after 12.18) was cancelled immediately on the London stock exchange. It was not shown at all on some other sites.

Just looked in to see how it finished. What on earth are those MMs about. Being a mid price no one knew if it was a buy or sell so the MMs did not achieve anything by putting it in. It was 11 am before i got to look at FFWD and thought it was funny at the time because that amount of trade should have attracted a premium if bought i.e 8.7p or a discount if sold i.e 8.5p. A 231k trade attracted a small premium. Looks like the MMs are just trying to mess with your minds and may have achieved it. So from now on just ignore them unless there is a price movement. I have better things to do than bother about weird false trades. So continue the patience until there is a serious move in the market. Best bet is what we do, look in the morning then at night and live your life in between.

Perhaps the patience we have been promoting is starting to pay off. We may all have the financial reward we are hoping for sooner than later. Again many thanks to you all who have done such excellent work on research.
Take care all

Good to see someone else agrees with us about the IPO for Leap

You missunderstood what i said. Just clicked on the wrong thing and saw you initial comment. Unfortunately although quite unwell my self and I am nursing my wife 24 hrs a day and I am prone to not doing everything 100% correctly.
What they bet on and how, is a fad, not betting is a fad. Sorry if it was not clear.
Lets remember dog racing was the biggest betting attraction in the 50s now a lot of the tracks have closed.
I was involved with street betting before it was legalised and spent many a year managing betting offices, many of which have closed owing to the internet, I also spent many years working on race courses. So why Leap is a big thing in virtual sport now, there is no guarantee virtual sport will always be so dominant if something else comes along, that is why we feel Leap should be listed while it is very popular. Cannabis on the other hand looks like staying the course. One of the most unusually things people bet on was spider racing in Devon barns and raindrops running down car windows.
For those who queried which trades were buys and sells there is a good example today. 8.68 was listed as a sale until they moved the bid price from 8.5p to 8.2p now it has become a buy as it is above the average. Therefore you have to follow the price variations of trades to determine if they are buys or sales,
Will try and look at your posts later next week if i get a chance.
Take care all.
Patience and keep your holding is the game.

Sales or Buys??
This is something we have pointed out before on here. Just because they are under the mid price they are classified as sales.
Just follow trades and the price and you know that after a buy they are not going to let someone sell stock for an higher price.
If in doubt put a test buy in and see what price is available then do a test sale and see the result of that. Remember a high quantity trade will generally always pay more when buying and get less when selling. just enter around 10000 on the test run. We did this the other day and it showed a lot of sales were in fact buys.
The only sale in our opinion after the 10.48 buy at 8.785
is at;
13.44 @ 8.5111p
All the rest were buys in our humble opinion.
The MMs know that at the moment people come and sell at 9p+ and the buyers will only pay up to 8.9p. They are getting a few large sales to offset the buys, presumably from those taking a small profit or getting their money back.
For FFWD to gain ground we need figures from the companies they hold. They could be good or even bad, however if LEAP and the others are going to go public then we can assume their figures must be ok. However they (Leap) need to do it sooner than later while things are, assumable, good.
That bit of confirmation the other day just had people holding more firmly as cannabis will (hopefully) continue to grow, while we cannot guarantee Leap will. Betting after all is a fad for a lot and something else may come and take over.
As for what the SP will be in the future, we are back to stage one as it depends on the figures these companies show in their accounts.
For those guessers they put amounts in, that they want for their own needs. If it reached 55p we would be out in a shot. But in the end we can only get out at the price that FFWD settles at after the IPOs etc. So as we have repeatably said "patience" is all we can have at present.

Leap are looking to list this year, hopefully by the summer at the latest and along with todays RNS it all looks rosie
We have been with FFWD for 5 yrs or more and we finally look like seeing the SP get in to double figures and remaining there.
There may be a lot of new investors join our ranks which will reward our patience with them pushing the SP upwards. No doubt there will be some selling from those satisfied with a small profit but that should be of little significance to the SP. Those of you who have faithfully held their ground are going to be well rewarded once Leap give us a date.
Ironically we were going to post that we felt an SP rise may be closer than we had expected, which led us to seeing the RNS.
All your research deserves a rich reward for you who no doubt have large holdings in FFWD and rightly so after your efforts.
From our point of view I hope my good lady will survive and get the benefit of these profits.
Take care all and many thanks for your research.

At last some firm confirmation Leap are looking to list this year, hopefully by the summer at the latest.
We have been with FFWD for 5 yrs or more and we finally look like seeing the SP get in to double figures and remaining there.
There will be a lot of new investors join our ranks which will reward our patience with them pushing the SP upwards. No doubt there will be some selling from those satisfied with a small profit but that should be of little significance to the SP. Those of you who have faithfully held their ground are going to be well rewarded.
Ironically we were going to post that we felt an SP rise may be closer than we had expected, which led us to seeing the RNS.
All your research deserves a rich reward for you and rightly so after your efforts.
From our point of view I hope my good lady will survive and get the benefit of these profits.
Take care all and many thanks for your research.

Been called in for our covid jab, so hopefully we will survive to make our fortune with FFWD, (well it will be a fortune to us). As we have said so many times just be patient and it will all come good. Sell when every one is buying and buy when everyone is selling and the blood is running down the gutter from the stock exchangehas been our moto for a good number of years

Only been able to look at trades a couple a times a day for FFWD owing to the fact my better half has been extrenly ill since just before Christmas and needs 24 hr nursing. But on looking at the latest posts today it appears you have all ceased being rude to each other, probably becase you are all excited about the SPs rise. We did not expect it to go much over 8p but to get to 9p is very pleaseing and shows us a profit. We attribute the rise to the fact that all those who had got fed up with FFWD have all more or less sold up, leaving the buyers to push the SP up. There may be some resistance as the price reaches a point that gets some other holders breaking even and they then sell up. As we have always said hold tight and have patience and it will all come right. There may have been some of you who have traded FFWD, selling when high and buying back when the price drops. This is a dangerouse exercise as you can be caught out with good news being released when you have sold up. We have and expect most of you who hold far more than our megre holding of a few hundred thousand put the stock in to ISAs to avoid a big tax bill when the share multiples 6-7 times. Non of us has the slightest idea what FFWD will be worth once the companies FFWD own go public or are taken over , but it should be a nice little earner for us all. Started this at 10pm Friday but having to run back and forth looking after the good lady has got me to this time. Well keep being kind to each other as it is a much happier atmosphere. With the FTSE 250 shooting up it has made our investments show a reasonable profit (something we never dreamed of last August), enabling us to increase the amount we give to charites each Christmas.l watch the trades and any RNS that pops up and try to look at your posts when i get a chance. Happy new year to you all.

Did not expect to be here again at the end of the year,
Now at 8p which is around NAV we usually see the buyers cease their buying and the sellers take over to take their profits. Or is this going to be different? will we we see investors buying in at above the NAV as they feel the value is there or they think there will be a float / take over announced very shortly ? With the market retreating the last two days and FFWD going up (yes we know FFWD does not go along with the market) you would Expect FFWD just to take a breath rather than continue with a largish increase. The MMs may be short of stock and will try to attract some by increasing the price. They must be struggling to make money unless they accumulated far more stock when it was under 7p than we realised. We do need some news (good) to keep steady at this price and then to keep going up. We do NOT want to see the sellers return and spoil the Christmas party. Only time will tell and next week should be interesting.

I do not usually cook on Christmas day as i cook every other day of the year for the good lady,so i get a day off. Cold buffet after church is usual on Christmas day.

475k trade
Could be the MMs, have trades on hand at higher price / know of potential sellers if the SP goes up.
This has happened a lot over the years, but sellers always push the price down.
Overall as we have consistently said, The price will go to near the NAV then fall back again, over and over again as mini news is issued. Until we get firm news backed up with figures will we see the SP change, either way. Only those who feel the NAV is underpriced will pay over 8p. Others buy at a discount.
No one knows what the finacial position of Leap etc is. These companies may appear be trading well but are they making profits?. or show there are ptential profits .
As for this 475k trade we do not understand why they gave this buyer a lower price to buy than the 3 previous buyers, so it could be a sell not a buy if MMs need stock.
So simply, until these companies have an IPO / get taken over or release results we are only guessing at their value.
There fore we must be patient. continual posting will not alter the price, only real figures from these companies will do that.
May you all have a holy and happy Christmas and a healthy new year.

Charming, hoping we die. Do you treat all old and disabled the same? and you wonder why people drift away from this site. We are all here to give personal comments / feelings about FFWD NOT other people. You probably did not think your comments out properly before writing them on here, and just did not want us to sell part of our holding. We have steadly purchased FFWD shares for the last 3 or more years and if we do want to sell some it is nothing to do with any one else. It is doubtful that we will sell but if the time comes we have to ( like many other holders) it is our right to do so. Thought the rudeness that was prevalent on this site over the last couple of years had all stopped. For those who are rude to others, do they not ever wonder what other people think of them for making those comments?
Any way it looks like we are not alone with the dissapointment the share has bought to us all and we can only hope the BOD think long and hard to get the SP going up rather than what income they are getting.

We are /were big FFWD fans but now doubt if we will ever see the 30p + that a lot on here, including usourselves, thought we would get to. All we can hope for is an IPO from Leap that pushes the share in to double figures. Unfortunately most of us have cottoned on to the fact the BOD are earning nicly, thank you very mush at our expence. They now need to get the SP going to restore the little faith left with the shareholders. Unless there is a massive change there will be a big exodus once the price reaches double figures. We may even dispose of some of our holding before that, something we never ever contemplated.

That applies to a few other small companies unfortunately, one of the reasons most big players stay away.

Very interesting, where did you find the fact that Leap is making money, and on what turnover?

Will someone take a stab of answering PF, or have they evacuated in to fresh air. Also some one is correct in saying that the money raised will reduce the NAV in June unless we get an IPO or two or a miracle etc
Not quite as many sellers as we feared but those who have sold have realised as someone else pointed out, the shares will probably be worth the same in June without an IPO and taking a chance of buying back at a lower price, while others have just said "To hell with FFWD" and invested elsewhere, never to be seen again.
There will be a lot of disappointed investors on the release of these figures, 14p NAV would have just about satisfied most but 9.4p is a long way from what some peoples average is.
As we all knew how can you value LEAP (which we are all counting on) without knowing whether they are making money or not, they need to float soon before the real events take over and their trades drop like a rock with people betting on real events. Until their accounts are published, does any one know when this will be? how can you value them.
As with most AIM you do not get to know anything until they go either public or bust, look at Factom, The same applies to all the investments that are not quoted. After years of patience with FFWD that patience has worn so thin it has faded away for a lot of investors. Future promise of wealth does not pay the bills today. If we had sold out at 12p and put the money in to our other investments last March we would at a conservative estimated made at least 50%. then bought back in to FFWD with a 33% discount.
We are still keeping our holding as we think we will get some decent profit in the end, but not the multiple amounts some predicted.
It never changes on AIM