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At that time a technical officer was the highest non management engineering grade. Under Newgrid that roll became C3 and an additional grade, the D grade was introduced to cater for people with additional skills or qualifications that were above the requirements for C3 in any particular department. One reason being people with CISCO accreditation as they were being targeted by IT companies and staff were leaving BT. Unable to comment on C3 max pay scale today would suspect around late 30-40k I left on a basic around 35k. Any reason?

Pound. BT has a minimum of 30 min for lunch, some may have longer but usually that is so there working day can be extended later in the afternoon. I had 30 min lunch for many years then due to business need it was extended to 45 min to give extra cover later in the day. So what if he is on a 4 day week, or a 3 day week or even a 14 day 3 week, if he is working 36 hours a week average and that will be lodged is some way, usually by logging on and off a system. He may have personal or domestic situations that the company has agreed with that may mean that he is not required to give any or very little personal time. These situations are not the norm but do exist for reasons such as being a career or medical reasons within the household. He may have reduced hours for a particular reason or job share, if so he would only be paid for reduced contracted hours. You clearly know nothing really about his employment situation other than you think there is something wrong because you are unable to see beyond the horizon...

Larry. Could not be bothered to mention being on call or weekends. It’s the curse of a vehicle with livery on it, nobody would think anything if he went off in the his car at 8 and back at 4 would they, because it has his employer on the side let’s all assume he is on the fiddle. Would there be the same concern for what he is doing if he left a 6am and never got back until after 9pm...

There could be many reasons why you may feel that perhaps from your viewpoint there could be something strange. Just because his vehicle appears to move at around the same time each day dose not mean that he is not working before or after those times. His vehicle will likely have a tracker, weather it works of not also his phone may be used to give his location for job allocation if needed. He may have a support roll meaning that not all of his time is needed in the field he may have some office functions within his department.

Larry. Yes possibly, I remember something about some people either leaving BT and due to where they were going could take there pension rights with them, also a vague memory of some people joining from a civil service job and bringing there pension with them, but it’s in the dim and distant past, early to mid 80s.

Fleccy. Yes there are active pension members showing but I am not sure hat there actual status is in BTPS. If you are deferred than you have not yet taken your pension in the closed scheme, if a pensioner then you are receiving it, so perhaps the active people could be those who perhaps left BT at some point but were allowed to take the pension with them to new employment, thinking before privatisation date, maybe say to or perhaps from say GPO. Really not sure of the definition of active.
Just to calm things a bit, industrial action can be many things within the law, not necessarily a strike, it will depend on the wording of any ballot. As said by another a , work to rule, can and has caused BT many major issues in the past. This hopefully will be resolved before things go to far, it has many times in the past.

Appears to be a call for a yes vote for industrial action in BT Openreach and EE

This will likely be about the union’s “Count Me In” campaign around the restructuring of BT.

Dare I suggest £2 by Christmas...

Wow so you have colour, hope to get that ITV soon and a transistor radio... GLA for next week.

Fleccy. What are you on about, there’s nothing wrong with my 405 line TV service...

Larry. “ If investment is ramped up this will probably have an impact on costs thus reducing profit which defeats the object (assuming all costs are not capitalised)”
Yes it could impact on profit over that period, but, it is £1b that can be spent that is over and above the estimated cost of FTTP and 5g rollout. If you take the current time plan for completion we are looking at around 2025-2026, after which costs will reduce at a pace in the following few years. Very little cost in additional network build after that, reduction in staff and there costs and a reduction in buildings and there related costs. So if they have an additional £1b they could spend effectively for free, reduce network upgrade by maybe 12-18 months, then the expected savings at the end of the original timescale start earlier, profit growth could start earlier and rise quicker than planned. A short term drop in expected profit to enable a quicker network build time makes sense, I can see no obvious reason not to look very hard at this as the potential to deliver better profits sooner with almost no additional costs if planed correctly. IMO

With all the positive news today from the budget in respect of BTs costs in the next 2 years in building out FTTP and 5g, the fact that this may encourage the company to ratchet up its build targets and roll out faster than planed, I find it amazing that there are comment on this board that talk about this in such a negative way. This could help reduce the numbers out of work by BT, it’s contractors and suppliers creating new jobs if they were to speed things up to take advantage if the budget. So this in turn would help to pay back some of the expense from Covid. Potential quicker access to all for FTTP, more in work, additional income for the government and better mental health for many hit by Covid. Lots of positives, yet still such negative comments, shame really and disappointing...

Hay Aus. When it comes to BT you are always “Allegro” eh...

I do hope not. But I believe it is the date for OFCOM...

It would appear that it’s not about the money, it’s about a complete change to there t&c. Moving them from an engineering grade into management. I did post about the likely consequences of that a few weeks ago. They may be on £45k but they are in the top pay grade for engineering staff and will likely hold formal qualifications, many internal qualifications, and have had many years of experience in the field before becoming planners. It appears to be a roll based around a good knowledge of BTs network and civil engineering. If interested,
https://www.cwu.org/news/solidarity-and-resolve-as-openreach-rpes-prepare-to-make-history-tomorrow/

Why thank you my lord Velo

I’m in that gang.

“ None of that sounds like ruthless competition, using their software and picking scraps sounds like cooperation / partnership. ”
Nice to see some positive comments around some of the potential new income streams BT are looking into. Nothing like a half full glass mindset...

Entrance into health market, well no, it’s been it’s major infrastructure and services supplier for decades and now upgrading from the old N3 contracts to HSCN, so offering additional services appears the natural progression. BT are the NHSs proven reliable provider so well placed to offer additional services to aid the NHS.
https://business.bt.com/campaigns/health-and-social-care-network/