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Thanks Zib. So BT have to supply additional duct on an existing route for possibly the sole use of other network suppliers. That with the cost of ground work, permits, traffic lights, materials etc is all down to BT. Said it before, the worlds gone mad…

Glad you find mild dyslexia combined with spell checker something to lighten your evenings entrainment…

Nige. The guy you were talking to is likely a contractor to VM. He has probably spent a couple of days doing some basic training and then sent out to pull cables in wherever needed. From what I have noticed in the last few months, these contractors are chuckling it in with little consideration for health and safety of the public or weather they are installing the additional cables in the correct manor. I wonder how long it will be before we start hearing stories about loss of service due to damage to existing cables by new installations. Perhaps Fleccy can answer this one can’t find any info on, when a duct route is full and additional duct is needed by an Altnet to install, do they or BT or both pay for that new duct work…

BT run the N3 network for the NHS but it is around 10-15 years old now, links, voice, data, routers.
Hopefully they can retain most and upgrade the network they already run, that would be cheaper than building everything from scratch using various suppliers, that always ends up with, it’s not ours it’s theirs, better to keep to one supplier for the whole thing…

Have noticed several providers over the last few months installing fibre in BT ducts, none of them appear to be doing it in a quality manner. Lengths of cable snaking up and down footpaths with no guarding or personal to safeguard the public, vehicles badly parked, many without hazard lights or beacons on, cones around open manholes instead of gate guards. It all appears to be being done in a rush by the installers, likely they are getting as much in the ground any way they can before the cash runs out…

True Fleccy, regarding VMo2. The other thing that comes to mind is as far as is known they were intending to upgrade there network without any wholesale access to it, just expand it by building there own ductwork and accessing OR ducts as well to grow there geography. So that would be a network only for them and O2 and the architecture would be designed around sole use. If as has been suggested they want to now offer Sky wholesale access then they would have to offer it to anybody who also wanted it, eg Talk Talk. So that would change the architecture of the network needing a change of technology to allow multiple access to the same fibres. A bit like starting from scratch again, then they do have a habit of not being sure which technology they are going to go for at any point in time…

It’s just another troll who knows absolutely nothing bout BT and likely the same for telecoms in general, sad a price drop attracts those who clearly are in need of help and support. Won’t be getting any of that on this site…

Opps posted to the wrong thread sorry should have been the one talking about helping out…

There was an item on BBC news today about the proposed 888app. They interviewed a woman who basically said, why should women have to rely on an app this behaviour needs to be stopped, the law needs changing etc etc etc. Yes some of that is true, law changes may help, but, if someone is predisposed to make these attacks nothing is going to stop them. At no point in the interview did anybody say that an app like this could provide much needed evidence, voice, video, GPS locations that would assist the police in looking at say cctv on that persons known route, or seeking witnesses in known locations. BT should get the press to offer the positives of such an app to help prosecute an offender. As said it won’t stop people being attacked by those who want to but it may well help put them in prison afterwards…

Agree BKK.
Have been saying for a long time, if BT said, “ that’s it we are switching it off at midnight” the county would stop by 00.05.
Broadband, Backhaul for mobil providers, digital TV, streaming, power networks, emergency services communication, MOD communication, DAB radio, banking, even the speaking clock would stop…

Magic ? Looks like the return of “ Rediffusion” to me…

Sky may well partner with VMO2 it makes sense to have access to more than one network to provide BB. The problem at present and going forward for a few years at least, is, VM has a limited geographical footprint. VM are at least 2 years behind BT in the rollout of a full fibre national network, possibly longer as they are only concerned with upgrading there existing network rather than in parallel building to new locations. So as BT upgrade on a national scale to FTTP who are Sky going to have to use to offer a national FTTC or FTTP service, yes that’s correct, BT. This Sky/VM deal will likely go ahead, but it will be several years befor it could have any impact on the revenue BT will get from Sky, by then who knows who else may want an access deal to BTs FTTP network, Amazon, Netflix,etc…

The thing with this action is as a follow up to past consumer loyalty in other businesses. Insurance policies going up every year if people did not shop around, likewise, energy, banking charges, satellite TV services etc. If consumers did not question the new price when there contracts ended and just renewed the price tended to rise, it was not an obligation for the provider to say, you may get the same elsewhere cheaper. Older people can sometimes have a tendency to stick with what they know rather than change, or simply do not know that they can change easily. That is why we now find our insurance providers and energy providers have been forced to advise that the new contract may not be the cheapest for the same service. I see this as another exercise in forcing business to advise at renewal that there may be other options open to them. BT being an easy target as it has worked in other areas. As a side line, I am not sure that if you only had a land line it was a fixed term contract or an open ended one that continued until the customer ended it. Either way if the customer simply renewed without question, then that is there choice not the supplier.
Grrrrrrr

Agree Fleccy, he is a prime candidate for one of Boris’s cabinet posts. Just like those holding a post, at the end of the day they talk the talk but, can’t walk the walk. Onwards and upwards…

I do not see the situation with a shortage of chips being an issue for the share price. It is a world wide problem that affects many areas of the modern world. Automotive, computing, entertainment devices, office equipment, etc, etc. There are also shortages of many other items, timber, chemicals, steel, cement, toilet rolls and HGV drivers and lots more. Chips are just an excuse to make up a story line, you could do the same if BT sold sheds, you just can’t get one…

“ Crypto is basically "digital crack".”
That says it all, anything but reality and the real world, a cop out for those who are unable to function in the real physical world.
The Worlds Gone Mad…

Thanks fleccy. So I can purchase something that dose not exist in a physical world, wait for nothing to increase in value, then turn it into physical cash, with a profit.
So if my nothing was to go down in value, I could say, hold on I think it’s worth what I originally paid for it, so that is what I want in return for selling it, get my cash back. As it’s nothing then it’s value is irrelevant because I can decide what I want it’s value to be, because it is nothing.
Perhaps it’s my age but as Mr Clarkson would say, “ The worlds gone mad”.
One last thing, if it’s basically gambling, then we all know who the winner will be at the end of the day, The House, not the gambler…

OK so I have Bitcoin worth shall we say £1000. How do I turn that into £1000 in paper money in my pocket?
I ask as from what I am reading there is no physical element to Bitcoin so how is it turned into a pice of paper I can use down the pub.

Makes you wonder if it was written by someone with a bias to VM and anti BT !!!!!!!
Seen that in the past…

As soon as there is a dip in the SP for a period, all the na says reappear with there gloom. Shame really as the have nothing to say when there is a rise, guess they move on to another company that is in a decline until that stabilises or rises then look for another place to spread doom and gloom. What a depressing way to spend your time, still suppose it takes all sorts, even if they are the minority…