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Fleccy. Fair point in respect of coax. When I left PDH services were starting to fall off, being updated to Ethernet products by customers and my understanding is that there are few now left working. SDH tends to not have much coax unless it is a breakout to PDH or ISDN30. How much remains in exchanges, the larger ones may have a fair bit as it is unlikely that until buildings get decommissioned it will be left in place so as to not damage working kit trying to remove it.
So yes a fair bit but nothing like the figures being considered in the external network even given that a lot of that still in the ground has either been recovered or is simply not copper. PCBs some kit was effectively leased and what with COSHH there may not be much money left after correct disposal…

Talked about this a week or so ago, extract from my post below FYI…
“ The other thing is the copper. The high value copper cables, those that connected between exchanges, many were pulled out up to ten years ago, some remain in the ground simply because there removal could cause damage to other plant in the duct space. What is left is the local loop, the problem there is a vast amount of that is actually aluminium especially from the street cabinets to the end users. Most of the cables from exchanges to the street cabs are copper so there is some revenue there. But all the talk about selling the copper dose not amount to the valve many think as they are under the impression, through no fault of there own, that it’s all copper, it’s not. ”

Bad joke from me. Had I known your personal situation I would not have made the comment. However that does not change the fact that he and many of his cronies need to man up or go. Would prefer the latter. Apologies again for any upset…

Is that BoJo you are commenting on…

“ They have their own mobile system.”
Yes BUT it is transported over BT products and its network. The issue is the fact that BTs network transports critical connectivity, it has network in places that “ dont” exist, not being Uk owned could have security issues should a “ friendly “ nation suddenly not be one if it owned BT and therefor had access to its sensitive locations and systems…

This just goes to show that a fully resilient national network is needed, just like BTs network is and the others are having issues delivering a resilient network…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-59491387

Agree Nige. If I say, I am not going to buy this house (today) that doesn’t stop me buying it tomorrow. As you say if not a shareholder then I don’t see that any rules apply…

Dazpink. BT no longer own the exchanges and office buildings as has been pointed out by others, they simply lease them. So yes savings to be made in reduced rental costs going forward. The other thing is the copper. The high value copper cables, those that connected between exchanges, many were pulled out up to ten years ago, some remain in the ground simply because there removal could cause damage to other plant in the duct space. What is left is the local loop, the problem there is a vast amount of that is actually aluminium especially from the street cabinets to the end users. Most of the cables from exchanges to the street cabs are copper so there is some revenue there. But all the talk about selling the copper dose not amount to the valve many think as they are under the impression, through no fault of there own, that it’s all copper, it’s not. Have to say your comments about the likes of cityfibre may well come true, they simply do not really understand what is involved in building and running a true national communication network…

Blade……. Quote.
It’s haemorrhaging money paying for old people to have a comfortable lifestyle.
BT is doing the right thing in supporting the BTPS as have its members while it was running. As a BT pension member I find your comment very offensive, but then having a moment to think about it, you are clearly jealous and concerned that your pension planning may not deliver what you hope. BTPS members do not ask for what they receive, it’s a contract they entered into and unlike many large companies t least BT is doing the right thing by sticking to there side of the contract.
I do hope that when you need it your pension plan will work out, then again having taken one second to think perhaps it would be better for you if it dose not…

Wot OFCOM said. Everybody had an opportunity to comment and objections raised, that was all taken into account and a decision given, move on…

That article is from Feb 2020 !!!!! Perhaps things have moved on from then, you never know BT may sell there sports TV ………….

Well I think that puts Comcast/Sky taking over VM to bed…

BluePete. I did state that Vodafone has its own network within the UK, that being the old Cable and Wireless one. But it has limited geographical coverage with very little beyond its TAN locations which in most cases extending from that site is via BT. They also have many customer site’s that they feed with there own fibre direct but is dedicated to that customer and many of them also have BT network co located at those sites. I am sure they may also use VM but again would be limited to the geographic location of that switching center, ie using VM products to extend to end users locations. Good close hopefully the trend will continue…

Vod May as you say be in the lead in this area. But apart from the geographic limited network they have from taking over CW, all there physical access network for BB and 5g is over BTs network and will likely remain so going forward and probably grow. As said before, network is king, and as such will allow increased income to provide the services needed by those offering solutions for IOT to end users…

OK ta

Any links to that info. Ta.

Please go away, nobody listening to you. Thanks

Gertfrobe. Think you need to read this post I posted only a few weeks ago, as said you have absolutely no idea how much the whole country relies on BT it’s products and services.

09 Oct 2021 21:03
Agree BKK.
Have been saying for a long time, if BT said, “ that’s it we are switching it off at midnight” the county would stop by 00.05.
Broadband, Backhaul for mobil providers, digital TV, streaming, power networks, emergency services communication, MOD communication, DAB radio, banking, even the speaking clock would stop…

sorry wrong link opps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yShvgXZQBTs

Nige.
"Zibrahimovic, I've phoned Openreach to report the manhole cover problem, they said that they would look into it. Hopefully no one will trip up over the cover. Cheers."
Hope this is not the result.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJbJjn98Ngw