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“ They have their own mobile system.”
Yes BUT it is transported over BT products and its network. The issue is the fact that BTs network transports critical connectivity, it has network in places that “ dont” exist, not being Uk owned could have security issues should a “ friendly “ nation suddenly not be one if it owned BT and therefor had access to its sensitive locations and systems…
This just goes to show that a fully resilient national network is needed, just like BTs network is and the others are having issues delivering a resilient network…
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-59491387
Dazpink. BT no longer own the exchanges and office buildings as has been pointed out by others, they simply lease them. So yes savings to be made in reduced rental costs going forward. The other thing is the copper. The high value copper cables, those that connected between exchanges, many were pulled out up to ten years ago, some remain in the ground simply because there removal could cause damage to other plant in the duct space. What is left is the local loop, the problem there is a vast amount of that is actually aluminium especially from the street cabinets to the end users. Most of the cables from exchanges to the street cabs are copper so there is some revenue there. But all the talk about selling the copper dose not amount to the valve many think as they are under the impression, through no fault of there own, that it’s all copper, it’s not. Have to say your comments about the likes of cityfibre may well come true, they simply do not really understand what is involved in building and running a true national communication network…
Blade……. Quote.
It’s haemorrhaging money paying for old people to have a comfortable lifestyle.
BT is doing the right thing in supporting the BTPS as have its members while it was running. As a BT pension member I find your comment very offensive, but then having a moment to think about it, you are clearly jealous and concerned that your pension planning may not deliver what you hope. BTPS members do not ask for what they receive, it’s a contract they entered into and unlike many large companies t least BT is doing the right thing by sticking to there side of the contract.
I do hope that when you need it your pension plan will work out, then again having taken one second to think perhaps it would be better for you if it dose not…
BluePete. I did state that Vodafone has its own network within the UK, that being the old Cable and Wireless one. But it has limited geographical coverage with very little beyond its TAN locations which in most cases extending from that site is via BT. They also have many customer site’s that they feed with there own fibre direct but is dedicated to that customer and many of them also have BT network co located at those sites. I am sure they may also use VM but again would be limited to the geographic location of that switching center, ie using VM products to extend to end users locations. Good close hopefully the trend will continue…
Vod May as you say be in the lead in this area. But apart from the geographic limited network they have from taking over CW, all there physical access network for BB and 5g is over BTs network and will likely remain so going forward and probably grow. As said before, network is king, and as such will allow increased income to provide the services needed by those offering solutions for IOT to end users…
Gertfrobe. Think you need to read this post I posted only a few weeks ago, as said you have absolutely no idea how much the whole country relies on BT it’s products and services.
09 Oct 2021 21:03
Agree BKK.
Have been saying for a long time, if BT said, “ that’s it we are switching it off at midnight” the county would stop by 00.05.
Broadband, Backhaul for mobil providers, digital TV, streaming, power networks, emergency services communication, MOD communication, DAB radio, banking, even the speaking clock would stop…
sorry wrong link opps
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yShvgXZQBTs
Nige.
"Zibrahimovic, I've phoned Openreach to report the manhole cover problem, they said that they would look into it. Hopefully no one will trip up over the cover. Cheers."
Hope this is not the result.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJbJjn98Ngw
Thanks Zib. So BT have to supply additional duct on an existing route for possibly the sole use of other network suppliers. That with the cost of ground work, permits, traffic lights, materials etc is all down to BT. Said it before, the worlds gone mad…
Nige. The guy you were talking to is likely a contractor to VM. He has probably spent a couple of days doing some basic training and then sent out to pull cables in wherever needed. From what I have noticed in the last few months, these contractors are chuckling it in with little consideration for health and safety of the public or weather they are installing the additional cables in the correct manor. I wonder how long it will be before we start hearing stories about loss of service due to damage to existing cables by new installations. Perhaps Fleccy can answer this one can’t find any info on, when a duct route is full and additional duct is needed by an Altnet to install, do they or BT or both pay for that new duct work…