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Lamb. So what are you going to do with the Fleccy !!!!!!!!

Any one for a Minced Pie ?

Aus. You’ve got your days wrong, no good being awake at 2am today to see Santa, it’s tomorrow morning that he comes.

It could well be...
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/eu-countries-prepare-possible-imminent-151047608.html

exchange should be change...sorry.

The B word is about one thing, Change.
Just step back and think for a moment, irrespective of your viewpoint.
For most exchange has the following impact on them. You are told that something you are used to, and may be happy with is going to change, your first reaction is, concern, fear, suspicion, so you tend to become defensive. The change then happens, your original feelings remain at first, some even may increase. Then you start to live with it, because you have to. It then starts to become the new normal, the feelings still remain but they become less as time moves on. Then comes acceptance, you go with it, more or less, you still have the odd concern, but life has moved on and so do you. The change has become normal, no matter hoe you felt at first, you find a way to live with it. Those who don’t then tend to become so bitter that it consumes them, it’s the only thing they see and people switch off, but some will find a constructive way to deal with it, accept it until an opportunity for change presents itself...

So at this moment in time the UK government plans for Brexit and transport across the channel are at full speed. Kent has now become the European Lorry Park with around 3000 lorries parked along the M20 and Manston airfield will scarce facilities for the drivers considering there numbers. The drivers of smaller vehicles such as large vans and anything not considered a goods vehicle are not allowed to use these locations and have to fend for themselves. LT us hope this is not going to turn into a dry run for 1st January. Hopefully the French will accept fast testing to allow the crossings to start again, except there is not at this moment any Covid testing facilities at the locations !!!

The T&C for new joiners will not compare in any way with those who have been employed by BT for say over 10-12 years. It’s not like the new people will be taking work away from existing staff, if they were then it could cause problems, but it won’t. BT have taken on a lot of new staff over the last few years, many on fixed term contracts that get renewed if they are still wanted, many were ex service people. These new people may well also be on fixed contracts to roll out FTTP .

“ NDN - we’ve already left..... ”
Sorry have I just entered a parallel universe, did, have, I said we haven’t, No, just pointed out my preference for the outcome come 01/01/21
As for how long it’s taken then look at the history books, it’s the fault of Mrs May deciding to hold a general election that brought about a hung parliament...
And still you have to resort to insulting people and belittling them for there position or stating that they are not honest in there view. If this were a workplace you might find the word, Bullying being mentioned.
As for leeks from media outlets not being based in fact because they do not support your view, then perhaps you live in a big white house in the USA and all yourself Trump. Most leeks tend to have a reason behind them and many turn out to be based in fact.

Aus. First I voted remain. I would like a tariff free deal. Others wish for a no deal. They argue, for the most part, by using facts or fact based argument. You though, as soon as any topic starts to move away from your position, start insulting people, comments like, weak minded and worse, stating they have mental health issues. It’s about time you started having a view of, glass half full, rather than your default of, glass three quarters empty. Posters only tend to return your insults because you decide to go down that line in the first place. Neither you, or me, will change Brexit, get over it, or start a political party to reverse it if you feel that strong. As I said a few days ago, actions speak louder than words, don’t they eh...

ToffNob. Said nothing about agreeing or disagreeing with the opinion of your post, just that you like to give an impression of it’s all your own work.
Sauce, must apologise for predictive text, but at least it’s all my own work.
Your memory must be failing you as well, I have previous advised you that my BT average is around 90p with most of my holding in the low 60p area.
It obviously gets under your skin when you keep getting called out, stalking, no just advising people on other boards how you work...

Doing it again aren’t you Toff. Not quoting the sauce you have cut and pasted from, so it looks to some like your own words. If you were as educated as you tell all you are, then you would acknowledge the source of your posts.
The comment is from, Thierry Breton, published on the Guardian web site.
It’s only good manners to acknowledge where the quote came from. If you are educated...

Wow what a hero. Nobody would have expected there to be financial troubles after Saturdays announcements by HMG. You must be the only person in the country to have seen what might happen come Monday. Thank you so much for giving us the benefit of your insight.
WAFW

Still at least BoJo makes more U turns than a Nissan SatNav. He has to be competent at something.

Would suspect Toff and Rod got it together at Soi Cowboy. What fun they must have had.

Who said anything about a time ? I am sure you are intelligent enough to work out who to contact it you think someone working for someone is doing something they should not, in your opinion, based on no knowledge of what that individuals circumstances may be and any agreement there may be with there employer, such as being a career or voluntary worker say reserved fireman or lifeboat crew volunteer. Perhaps if you are that concerned you should ask them yourself, I am sure you will get a rational answer. Perhaps you could consider joining your local neighborhood watch to help keep the streets safe.

Pound. BT vans have had trackers in them for around 15 years so people are where they should be and don’t leave late or go home early. Most have to pick up there first job well before there paid start time and be on there way before they are being paid, same at the other end of the day. They have flexible working at the end of the day, used to be up to one hour after their finish time with no extra pay up to six hours. But if there is little work for them they can go home up to one hour early up to a rolling max of 6 hours. It works bout ways. Also many people work 3 or 4 day weeks so to the unknowing it could appear that the van spends a lot of time on the drive.

Aus FYI. My understand is this may have undergone some changes in the last couple of years in respect of description and responsibilities, so I will use terminology from when I left.
Non management from lowest skill set given to new people until they have received the training to move to the next layer. B1 then to B2 this will be a large percentage of staff.
Then C1 to C2 to C3. C1 tends to be experienced staff in rolls that could be similar to say a Forman
C2 tends to be as C1 but may have additional technology accreditation or job specific training or roll. C3 staff with formal qualifications and or technical in house training for a particular roll or sometimes a managers assistant who may not have formal qualifications but whose roll dictates the grade. D1 same as a C3 but tending to have additional technical qualifications such as Cisco accreditation for example.
Management rolls . Level one tend to have an engineering group under them, within that grade there are sub levels dependent on service of nature of there roll, some may not have staff under them but work as a specialist. Then level two as above perhaps equivalent to a district manager. Level three, as above say same as regional manager. Level four as above usually a division head who usually reports to board level.
BTs internal internet, an intranet, has all the pay scales for each including bands within a grade if applicable. All staff have access to this, the only thing they will not see are any roll specific additional payments or rewards and any bonuses that a roll may be entitled to dependent upon there or there departments performance.
Hope that helps your understanding of the situation.

Aus
“ yes, I can see why low level managers might want to tell their low level staff these stories to create a “we’re all in this together “ work environment.”
Who the hell do you think you are. Low Level staff!!!!!!
They happen to be the people who keep things going, rain, wind, freezing conditions, middle of the night, in the middle of nowhere, and you refer to them in the derogatory term Low Level Staff.
Shame on you, shame...

Aus. Same as Fleccy. Most first line engineering managers and a few second level managers have, had, non management staff under them who earn, earned, more than them selfs. Many people who move from staff to first line managers tend to earn less than they did in there first few years unless they came to a personal agreement to protect them from that until they reached parity with there previous pay scale. You don’t need access to HR as salary for a given grade is published for all to see. If a manager gets a bonus these days it’s few and far between as there targets for one are far ranging and in many cases unreachable due to matters outside of there control. You say you read al lot, obvious by many of your comments, words are easy, action tells the true story. You go work for a telecoms company in an engineering position for say 30-40 years then give your opinion based on that experience.