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Hi BT you didn’t imagine it.
Quote. The Plastic Park will deal with a wide range of plastic waste providing recovery solutions for materials where recycling has not previously been a viable option. It will take plastic that’s at the end of its life, maximising what can be removed for recycling, with the remaining non-recyclable plastic used to create electricity, hydrogen or other products.
We estimate that the UK needs to invest over £7.5bn in infrastructure to deal with plastic waste over the next 10 years, with the development of Plastic Parks across the country. The first park at Protos will set a blueprint for the rest of the UK revolutionising the way that plastic waste is currently handled.
Plus, if you look a previous Peel picture at https://www.protos.co.uk/plastic-park/ it shows the circular recycling method that ends with the DMG plant.
So, imagine how much easier it will be to persuade other councils that this is the best plastic waste recycling and disposal method for the waste plastics industry. And all that’s needed is planning permission to get it off the ground in other areas.
Now if funding is needed. How about going to the two main sources of plastic pollution. The oil industry and the aligned plastic manufactures. Push for their input so that they can keep their industries alive for when oil is totally banned.

Sorry but I disagree PT. Im waiting for the plots 10A, 11, 12, 13 and 9B to be occupied so that our plot 10B can have a plant built to be supplied with local sorted feedstock. And to be able to sell its output to those other plots as was stated in Peels original concept for the Protos plastic park. Peel so far have carried out to the best of their abilities their stated obligations as a property facilitator. That is to obtain planning consents, provide access roadways and now they are developing the service supplies as they are required to do. Our plant is just a small part of that park and will be running when the whole jigsaw pieces are in place.

Just now having read the newsletter Apart from a brief mention about our plant there is nothing to get excited about. Its a shame as I was hoping for a bit more.

Is available from https://www.protos.co.uk/media/1430/protos_community_newsletter_december.pdf

Yes thanks RR I did find more info on their gasification plant further down in the planning application. But its always good to receive any further information.

I just pulled this down from Plot 4s planning application note the term about gasification.

The proposed development is for a Bio-Substitute Natural Gas Facility which would accept up to a maximum of 175,000 tonnes per annum (tpa) of fuel, comprising either grade B and C wood waste and/or refuse derived fuel (RDF). The facility would use an innovative gasification technology and further onsite processing to produce a gas capable of being used as Liquified or Compressed Natural Gas for use in HGV vehicle fleets and bus fleets. In this case, the proposal would be to insert the gas into the gas grid (it would therefore be clean enough to become part of the main gas supply) and take it out at a new facility off-site for final processing into LNG/CNG and onward supply to hauliers and bus companies. The proposal is therefore to turn residual waste materials into renewable fuels certificated fuels for transport fleets.

I have to admit NH that your post regarding lignite was intriguing especially along side the posted TECH AGM link from the Doc. That download gave an even more detailed flow chart regarding all the types of waste materials that could be run through a DMG plant. Bio waste gas for one produced from wood etc. Its begs to ask the question. What process is Plot 4 going to use to create their gas outputs. Could a DMG plant be of use on that site.
However there is something more than that. I see now a possible tie up of the two company's that I hold shares in. PHE of course plus EQT. They both seem to be capable of being a useful link to each other. Only time will tell but so far EQT have a number of plants already under construction or redevelopment from other failed process. Could this be a way forward in getting other recession hit plants converted quickly to a DMG processor.
Its just a thought. But I do thank both you NH and DA for more food for thought.

Especially the bit about receiving another revenue stream from Biochar. In that case, will that mean Italian wines grown in next years crop contain a hint of Biochar in the next wine tasting season.

So do I thanglan, 8p minimum final dividend.
After all they sold off company assets to remove the debt.

Like the Scottish leader of parliament in London. Motor mouth Ian Blackford they spew out more CO2 than most other MPs.

On a separate note and having looked at the German recycling plants. I fail to see how Peel are going to build the first DMG plant without having the rest of the park up and running at the same time. The processes are just to intertwined with each other.

Nutty this link to the German recycling industry is most certainly your best find yet. I even managed to answer the question as to how they separate Alu cans from steel ones. Obviously steel can be attracted by magnets but even with my knowledge of the fact that like poles of magnets repel. It didn't occur to me that using an eddy current to artificially generate a magnetic pole around an Alu container. They can separate said can by throwing it against a like pole to be repelled off in a different direction. Learnt something new again today. So thanks a lot.

The next thing we know is DP will release an RNS stating they are pivoting away from Hydrogen in favour or dilithium crystals and he has "partnered" with the Star trek federation in order to power warp engines!.
Well as anyone knows C909,that's a good thing. As dilithium crystals can support warp factor 10 yet Hydrogen only struggles to achieve warp factor 3.

My post refers to the 2nd RNS and not to the Manchester RNS just to clarify the use of the wrong subject thread.

RNS does affect the roll out of the DMG plant in Scotland and if the DMG plant is confirmed as an incinerator it could be used as method to block other plants in and around the UK. It would be stupid to ignore this RNS as boring and not relevant.

There are only 7 weeks left of 2022 not sure how many phases will be fitted into that time scale.

The Poles, along with other European countries, get on with things.
Except the vaccine rollout that is.

You do realise cure boy that Peel hold all the planning permissions and the land that the plant will be built on. So how do you propose that a polish billionaire is going to buy more UK land and get planning permission in less than the five years that it has taken Peel to put together the plastic park.

Yes thanks GF. I had a problem with NHs link as it required me to sign up or log into Twitter. For some unknown reason I have joined Trump on the cancelled list. And it will not let me do either. It says I have an account yet I have never had one. And it will not let me log in with any password that I may have used in the passed.

An excellent find GF. It gives a better understanding of the art of sales coupled with an engineering bias that I have seen for a long time. It shows a profound level of engineering experience and understanding of the concept of waste to energy production added to a level of hand holding for any future customers that contract to purchasing a DMG plant. Now we are starting to buzz. On the other hand I would still like to see a notice that Plot 10A has a client in hand so that we have the feedstock available for the park. Another interesting point that I came across was the changes in planning regulations in June 2023 that will require builders to change their building foundations to take into account ungraded heat retention. House and commercial builders are all running around creating those foundations just to beat those regulations even if they don't intended to construct the building its self as yet.