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We're talking about income tax cuts, I link to 40 years worth of data showing income tax cuts don't help working class folk.

Stop trying to change the argument - and it's telling your back to your calling me "communist" in lieu of any actual debate.

"It depends on which taxes are cut Mach"

Just do some research instead of living in ignorence. It isn't "communist" to learn.

So Gate, TFE, I suppose you just going to ignore the studies that show tax cuts benefit the rich and increase inequality? Just going to ignore the empirical evidence are we?

"London-based academics have analysed 50 years of growth, income and employment data covering 18 countries. Tax cuts for the rich do not have any significant effect on economic growth and unemployment, and lead to higher income inequality” (https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2021/01/tax-cuts-for-wealthy-impact-lse-study/)

"A UK income tax cut would mainly benefit wealthy households and do little to address the growing cost of living crisis, according to new research that casts doubts on the ambitions of the contenders to lead the ruling party and nation." (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-07-14/uk-tax-cuts-would-benefit-wealthy-households-most-ippr-says)

Every damn study shows that tax cuts benefit the rich and don't do anything to tackle inequality. We have decades of data proving this point. It isn't debatable, it isn't a question, it's a FACT.

You are arguing something that has been demonstrably proven WRONG by economists for decades.

"Let the people keep their own money."

Taxes are good for "the people". Taxes pay for things "the people" need. Infrastructure, healthcare, education, maintenance of public spaces, etc etc.

Only a complete idiot who doesn't understand how society works is against taxes. They are utterly essential to a healthy country.

If you don't like taxes, go live in a forest and do to the toilet in a hole by your shack. Let's see how your "politics of envy" speech goes over with the squirrels. Simpleton.

The working class don't want tax cuts, they want wages increasing with inflation. Tax cuts disproportionately benefit the rich, they always have.

Well done to the Lionesses!

I support every single person in this country receiving a pay-rise in line with inflation. Why would I support a pay-cut to the hardest working people in society? Go talk to a doctor, nurse, teacher, police officer, chef, waitress etc etc that has busted their butt for the last few years trying to keep this country running that they deserve a pay-cut, all while gas companies make record profits.

Soulless f*cking vampires.

Cool, another pointless post aimed directly at me saying absolutely nothing of substance.

We both agree sectarian chanting at football is bad, so why do you keep going on about it? No one is defending it. You're fighting shadows.

Again, it's not just a train drivers strike and you seem to have ignored basically every single thing I wrote, while sticking to one specific point. What is it with you lot and reading comprehension?

I'll be cheering on England like I cheer when the English team takes the knee, while their own "fans" boo them and make monkey chants.

I'll be cheering on England like I cheer on Marcus Rashford fighting for free school meals for children in poverty, while Tory millionaires vote against it.

I hope the Lionesses win, because there is very, very little to be happy about in this country right now. God knows we need something to be proud of.

Sunak is by far the better candidate, but the options are both rotten. They are Boris lackeys and the whole lot needs to go. The Tory party is lurching dangerously to the far-right and the UK needs to wake up and correct itself before it's too late.

All that said, it doesn't really matter because whoever becomes PM won't have a mandate by the British people to govern and will barely have support from within their own party.

A GE will get called soon enough and if Liz f*cking Truss is the erstwhile PM then Starmer will have an easy road to power.

I mean, lots of companies with huge market caps operate at a loss for years and years. I suppose it depends on what you define as "meaningful revenue", but i don't know how you can predict the future with Ilika one way or the other. Could come out with a massive order tomorrow and everything would change.

As is, tiny market cap and loads of room for growth. We've seen 270p twice in the last few years.

Hahaha Guitarsolo they made a thread about you now! Welcome to the club!

These sad, old right-wing loons cant handle anyone disrupting their insular, deluded worldview so just resort to targeting and bullying people on here who do.

They can't defend their bigotry, they can't defend Brexit, they can barely defend voting Tory, so they just resort to targeting users and trying to bully them into submission. It worked for them in high school in the 70s and they haven't really grown up since then...

We've all made the same post at one point or another.

Unfortunately the Lloyds price closely tied to the UK economy which is closely tied to political policy. And there are loads of knackered ol' bigotted boomers on here that need a dose of reality from time to time.

"The usual twisting and misrepresentation of what I’ve written by you Mach. How do you know who I support just because I don’t support an inflation pay increase for them ?"

What does "support" mean if it doesn't mean "support"?! Dear God man read what you just wrote...

You are LITERALLY saying you don't support wage increases for them, that ISN'T supporting them. It's black and white. Christ almighty the double-think is amazing.

You can't say you support someone while also condemning them for wanting pay rises. Thats like saying you support Man Utd as long as they don't try to and score goals.

Insane, maddening, nonsensical arguments from a clearly age-addled brain.

Gate13

I know you don't support doctors, teachers, nurses, police, train drivers, bus drivers, barristers, lawyers, waiters, chefs, barristas, civil servants, social workers, labourers, midwives, firemen, tube drivers, taxi drivers...etc

I knew that already. But it's nice to have it in writing.

I imagine you're pretty annoyed children are no longer forced to work and that slavery was abolished too.

Please Sir, can I have some more?

Gate13

While you here, you could answer whether you support the working-class strikes for pay rises in line with inflation? Would love to hear your thoughts.

TFE the fish rots from the head down. Your logic absolves everyone in power from responsibility. But I'd expect nothing less from cult-followers.

TFE so when the government is nakedly corrupt, it's not actual corruption, it's just that certain departments have missed catching it? Is that your argument?!

So literally no one is accountable. Certainly not the PM, as they delegate every choice to people that delegate it to other people and so on. I guess ultimately it's all the fault of the cleaners and the cat at Downing St.

TFE, err, the party in power is the only party that can truly hold the party in power to account. That is what being in power means you fool. That is also why it's important to have a party that has respect for democracy.