RE: Trading4 Jan 2024 22:04
Hi Joseywales,
No its not that at all.
Family originally had around 11,000 shares at a cost of around £3 each. Those consolidated into 550 new shares.
Those 550 new shares had 3,300 rights - which I couldn't do anything with as they are tied up in probate.
So to maintain the same percentage holding as before it meant investing another £6,600 to do that or just write off the whole £31.5K as a loss, as the share price wasn't going to return to effectively £60 a share. If I put another £6,600 at risk through the right issue it would mean having 3,850 shares & the share price would need to go to £9.75 for us to break even.
I decided to try & trade our way out of the issue instead. As part of that thought process I declined to touch the rights issue, taking the view that the share price would go lower than £1.98 & that I'd get more shares for that same £6,600.
The 1st time I bought in for that sum of money (rights issue £6,600) was at £1.80 (meaning I got 3665 shares for the cash instead of 3300). A gain of 365 shares through inaction with the rights issue, or the easiest way of thinking about it is imaginarily having sold the 3,300 shares at £1.98 & buying them back at £1.80 with the profit £600 re-invested as is happening with each trade. But as I didn't do the actual trade itself that's why I've termed it a "saving" instead.
When I was doing other trades & banking the profits I accounted for them separately.
The problem arose when I sold down my holding to below the rights issue number & then bought them back at a different price ( or sold out completely as I have done 3 times now).
How to account for that initial saving in a way ordinary readers would understand! Stating the actual banked profit is easy & doesn't change until another profit/loss is crystallised, which is easy for everyone to understand. To keep changing the "savings" amount every so often is much harder for people to grasp & feel that your being honest in your calculations with them.
The savings amount in cash only changes every time my share holding drops below my banked profit & rights issue cash. But I'm only trying to reflect it in the numbers when I've actually sold out all of my rights issue shares. Any profit I make on this small number of shares goes into the banked profit figure, the rights issue figure of £6,600 stays constant.
My trades have varied in size from purchases of 2,000 shares to 6,000 shares in size & sales from 3,000 shares to 10,000 shares.
My profits to date have been
£338.36
then loss of £90.91
£416.80
£263.12
£280.79
£168.29
£129.22
£296.70
£271.25
£70.79
£543.16
£225.24
£512.70
Which come to a banked profit of £3425.51
to be continued
LOTM