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horse names for fun 15.30 Cat Kyrenia Castle, 15.50 Ling Als Memory, 17.10 Elle Rebelle, 18.05 Sand Daisy Boy. all ew non horse names 14.00 Cat Learning Curve is tempting but put off by Harry as first timer.Maybe just watch. 16.30 Cat Thornaby Princess ew or place only gla.

acker - horse names - first started doing them when girlfriends/wife, knowing nothing about form just fancied the name, were having better success in the derby/grand national than me! Just a bit of fun but occasionally the no hopers oblige.

wOW Harry £1,000 bet, that's heavy money. What would you have had to pay if it won? David Evans had a good day today!

Only 1 bet today as am busy with accountancy work. A fun name punt on Peak Hill. My secondary school was at Peak's Hill Purley Surrey, St John Fisher. Really given that fund a boost. Am reticent to publish my fun name selections as quite a few losers but now and then real beauties come up like my cat 'Daisy' last week 18/1. The male cat's name is SYLVESTRE after the cartoon cat so might take a look at s de souza's record as a jockey. My eldest daughter Kristine was born in 1978 and I followed a horse called Kris who was terrific. Got beaten in the 2000 guineas but had a terrific record good one miler similar to Brigadier Gerard. Only lost twice I recall. Looks like robjohn got it spot on with fav losers at Musselwhatsit. Don't quite follow what you mean about the doubles.

Harry regarding your comment about selecting short priced losers there is a system that Betting Rant drew attention to of turning the tables and acting as bookie and laying odds on favorites on Betfair which they claim has been tested and proved to be a winner. There were other conditions to be met , number of runners odds of 2nd and 3rd favorites so not all odds on favs would be laid. Have not tried it as the thought of a running sequence of odds on winners scared me but after yesterday?

HARRY still don't understand your daily lay bet. Do you mean only bet favorites that have odds of 5/1 or over? After yesterdays shambles I thought maybe restrict the favs to 3/1 or above and nothing below that. It would cut down dramatically on the number of bets placed and at the better odds may cover the losers. I will check back over my past results on the fav system to see if there is any merit in it.

On reflection Harry did start his blogg with 'Typical Monday racing a lot of poor quality' and I believe Knigelk indicated in his blogg there could be some long priced results. Prior to coming across the strategy I have never been a fan of backing favs because of the poor odds and usually went for the contrarian and invariably picked the 2nd favorite when a horse was odds on in a 2/3/4 horse race or the outsider as better odds and upsets do occur. White bullet getting beat brought back memories of Bula unbeaten in 12 or 13 races, a racing certainty, and sod's law I pick the race to back him when he first lost, 1/5 if my memory serves me well.

In view of the appalling performance of favorites in two meetings on Saturday and the four meetings yesterday including the 1/8 racing certainty the fav strategy seems to be severely flawed and should be put on ice pending further results to see if this was just an isolated run of bad luck/results. Robjohn said it would end in tears, he may well be right. Luckily I was too busy yesterday otherwise I would now be in an overall loss using the strategy. There is however a plus to every adverse situation as it is a perfect illustration of the folly of doubling up which should never be contemplated. Best to stick with HARRY,another fantastic placed horse at 16/1.

Good morning everyone Another multiple bets illustration. Harry's Sunday's highlighted horses 6/7 horses 2 in one race, 7/8 if one includes the late tip which came 2nd at 7/1 making it 3 fancied horses in one race. Based on six horses that's 15 doubles if one includes the other two horses that's a further 10 bets making a total of 25 bets at 1 point a bet. ONLY 2 won each at 2/1, not bad odds but only producing 9 points profit therefore overall loss 16 points. Further Harry's two main selections, only 1 won at 2/1. IF DONE AS SINGLES 1 point net profit on the day which is acceptable. If a double had been added no profit. WIN only assumed. HOWEVER, remember my earlier post and the so so close yankee on a win basis based on Harry's four main selections on the day which if it had materialised would have produced over £3k for £1 on the accumulator alone so there is potential for that crock of gold to wipe out all the losing multiples. I will stick to singles and the occasional double.

Did not bet today busy posting here today but building up my history. newton abbot profit 1.87 points, redcar 2 points profit stratford another newbury loss 5 .56 points overall loss 1.69 points. However, bird in the strand basis at 2pm after 2 races 2.25 points up, 2/3rd towards target of 3 quit.

Profit seeker see below my control sheet for Saturday which is essential when so many meetings are involved as there are barely minutes between races to make decisions and place bets especially if there are joint favorites which means two bets and prices do change right up to the off. I missed one joint favorite as a result but luckily got on the one that won. Once a meeting no longer needs to be considered it makes life a lot easier. I usually bold them on the list and enter 0.00 once that happens as a visual guide. As you can see in 1 and half hours at 3pm I was 2/3 on the way to a six point profit, 1 for each of the six meetings,which I am more than pleased to achieve at the end of the day. In fact a net profit of 1 point ON A DAILY BASIS would suffice if the stakes were raised. The way I look at it is if my betting was £100 a point I would be up £404 on the day at 3p.m. Would I be happy with that? Too right. Would I be happy to continue and risk losing it. Perhaps not. So QUIT. The fact that I am still only testing the system and only raised it from £1 to £4 a point so far and only stood to lose £16 clouded my judgement. At £100 a point I may have stopped at 1.04. £100 A DAY = £500 for a five day week = £25,000 for a 50 week year is one way of looking at it but one has to have a sufficient fund to suffer losses on the scale of Newbury and Ripon on Saturday. Early days yet and the system does not warrant such heavy punts as yet. newb 13.25 5/6 3RD -1.00 newm 13.40 4/1 3RD -1.00 -2.00 mr 13.45 4/9 1ST 0.44 -1.56 chest 13.50 4/9 0.44 -1.12 newb 14.00 9/4 7TH -1.00 -2.12 cart 14.05 2/1 J 1.00 -1.12 ripon 14.10 3/1 -1.00 -2.12 newm14.15 2/1 2ND -1.00 -3.12 mr 14.20 3/1J 2.00 -1.12 ches 14.25 5/2 3rd -1.00 -2.12 newb 14.35 6/4 2ND -1.00 -3.12 cart 14.40 85/4 3 0.00 -3.12 ripon 14.45 4/6 1st 0.66 -2.46 newm 14.50 7/2 3.50 1.04 mr 14.5 5 5/1 9 0.00 1.04 chest 15.00 3/1 3.00 4.04 newb 15.10 13/8 2ND -1.00 3.04 cart 15.15 3/1 2 0.00 3.04 ripon 15.20 9/4 6 -1.00 2.04 newm 15.25 5/1 9 0.00 2.04 mr 15.30 9/2 4 0.00 2.04 chest 15.35 7/4 lost 0.00 2.04 newb 15.45 2/1 5 -1.00 1.04 cart 15.50 5/2 1st 0.00 1.04 ripon 15.55 100/30 5 -1.00 0.04 newm 16.00 8/11 1st 0.00 0.04 mr 16.05 8/13 3 0.00 0.04 chest 16.10 4/5 1st 0.00 0.04 newb 16.20 5/2 6 -1.00 -0.96 cart 16.25 5/2 6 0.00 -0.96 ripon 16.30 2/1 4 -1.00 -1.96 newm 16.35 11/4 3RD 0.00 -1.96 mr 16.40 100/30 5 0.00 -1.96 chest 16.45 4/6 lost 0.00 -1.96 newb 16.55 5/2 8TH -1.00 -2.96 cart 17.00 0.00 -2.96 ripon 17.05 -2.00 -4.96 newm 17.10 0.00 -4.96 mr 17.15 0.00 -4.96 chest 17.20 0.00 -4.96 cart 17.30 0.00 -4.96 ripon 17.35 -1.00 -5.96 hope this helps

profit seeker No doubling, as Robjohn said earlier could be a recipe for disaster. Standard 1 point each and every bet until 1 point or more net profit per meeting is reached then no more bets at that meeting. The 1 point could be £1, £2, or whatever you chose bearing in mind your betting fund ad how much you can afford to lose. However see earlier posts about bird in the strand philosophy. see table below from Chester on Saturday as an example. CHEST A net profit of 2.44 after third race more than 1 point profit so stop. 4/9 won 0.44 profit 5/2 3rd -1.00 net loss -0.56 3/1 won 3.00 net profit 2.44 stop no more bets at this meeting. 7/4 -1.00 lost 4/5 00.80 won 4/6 -1.00 lost 6/4 -1.00 lost 0.24 net profit If one had continued and bet the fav in each race one would have given it all back to the bookies and ended with a net profit of only 0.24 points. I always quote the blacksmith's special offer for shodding a horse to warn people from doubling up. The offer was £1k for each shoe making it £4K in total OR a fathing for the first nail, half penny for the second, 1 penny for the third and so on. It takes 8 nails for each shoe therefore 32 nails in total. Which would you chose and don't say neither? Do the sums the result is mind boggling.

royjohn I too prefer Harry's two to three tips a day rather than through the card that's why the fav system stops at 1 point profit per meeting. Better to bank profit than give it all back to the bookie which is what happened to me on Saturday.Newbury and Ripon were real stinkers for favs which is why I like to spread the risk over more than one meting, usually about three. If the two evening meetings had been like Newbury I would have been in deep ---- trouble. Thankfully Lingfield started well. A few meetings ago I got off to a cracking start with an 11/2 winner and called it a day using the bird in the strand logic. I only came across the strategy, not mine, recently so it is early days. I am going to treat it like my day trading which calls for different strategies for different markets so it should not be set in stone and amended to suit. Take Saturday, some fields were cut down to three or for runners which completely alters the situation. I usually go for the outsider or second fav in such situations and low and behold that's what happened but I stuck to the system and lost. I think Harry only gave through the card tips for his ole mucca Acker from the Fitbug board at Acker's request, mind you he had a cracking first day at Ascot 4 winners out of 6 I recall.

robjohn and Harry. I know Harry has said the professionals back ew 5/1 and over and win under that perhaps ew 4/1 when 1/4 odds and that has to be respected. However, with Harry's record of tipping those big priced winners I wonder if it would be worth betting 2 points win on them instead of 1 point ew. Haven't the time to back test but perhaps someone else on the board could do it and report back if anyone thinks there may be some merit in it. All Harry's tips where sp was 6/1 or over. robjohn you mentioned 77 tips, I can recall an 11/1, 7/1, 9/1 and a 6/1. Those 4 would produce 66 points profit at 2 point win compared to 41.25 point ew 60% more. This does not take into account the missed profits from the place winnings of other tips that only got placed, one more road at 16/1 comes to mind which paid 4 net point profit at 1/4 odds as opposed to a net 2 point loss if win only so clearly that would have to be taken into account for comparison purposes.

ROYJOHN.djohnsa, Lefkosia's system is to back each favorite at each meeting that is evens or above, when there is a profit of one point or more at a meeting then you finish betting at that meeting. It will all end in tears. lol Excellent explanation BUT Slight correction and tweeking of the system. Sometimes I will accept an odds on bet eg 4/5 5/6 as long as it pays .4 of a point or more in profit. In my original posting I believe I said I tend to ignore long odds on favs eg 1/9 but 4/6 is doable. Yes Royjohn, you may very well be right it may end in tears but so long as one bets responsibly it won't. So far I am still ahead. Time will tell. Please see my previous post to Harry about being flexible and the bird in the Strand approach which I may incorporate in future into the strategy. Also, after yesterday’s severely depleted fields with loads of non runners I will be looking at minimum runners per race. Bearing in mind your recent posting ‘Since this thread started Harry has shown a profit of over 21pts from 77 bets, approximately 27% on level stakes. I would have been happy with 10% when I was betting. Keep it up. :-)’ at 4.04 points profit yesterday afternoon perhaps that would have been another reason to quit while ahead and should be incorporated into the strategy? Harry’s record 21/77 = 27.27%. You would have been happy with 10 % .Yesterday at 4.04 points profit the statistic was 7/14 = 50%. What do you think? On my day trading the Stock exchange one of the targets for closing a trade is only 5 % profit. On the subject of multiples I tend to avoid them as in the long run they tend to be losers and go for straight singles or occasionally the odd double. Take for instance the other day. Harry highlighted 2 winners 6/1 and 7/1 Birdman and Double up but only Birdman featured as a selection. I believe Acker had them in a double, very nice 55 points profit but in order to guarantee coupling the two one would need to have coupled all the horses highlighted 10 in all. That’s 45 doubles so a profit of 10 points BUT 44 losing doubles and how often does one get those long odds? Even if they were 4/1 and 4/1 which ain’t bad that’s a return of 24 points which would mean a losing overall bet of 20 points. Have used win only for illustration purposes. Harry’s post below. Just under 7000 views in a Month not bad at all but don't tell Alexsander!! Good racing tomorrow just been through the cards and a few phone calls and texts. 1.45 York BIRDMAN EW 2.10 Ascot DOUBLE UP 2.25 Chester. MIGHTY ZIP.. 2.55 York RED BARON. 3.00 Chester. ZARWAN 3.10 New. ONE MORE WORD. 3.25 York. SENNOCKIAN STAR. 4.00 York. MOUNT KIARA 4.35 York. WILLIAM OF ORANGE 5.05 Ascot. SPACE AGE. All look in with a chance. SELECTIONS FOR SATUDAY-: 1.45 York BIRDMAN. 3.10. New ONE MORE WORD EW 4.00York. MOUNT KIARA ( well regarded at home) EW. 4.35 YORK. WILLIAM OF ORANGE. Fergal has a good strike rate for Tim Easterby on One More Word. GLA ACKER 11 Jul '15 Thank you Harry HOWEVER, Harry came so very, very, very close to a fantastic win yankee at fantastic odds on his four main selections. IF the main selections had all won the win accumulator alone would have paid over £3K to a £1 stake! one more word 16/1 2nd birdman 7/1 1st 11/2 mount kiara 2nd WILLIAM OF ORANGE 11/4 2nd A win yankee paid nothing but ew yankee on the four would have paid very handsomely and if the win had come off well that is the other side of the coin but in the long run I would hazard a guess that the bookies do rub their hands at multiples.

Good afternoon Harry. As you would say bad day at the office yesterday. I ended the afternoon session at 5.96 points loss having been up 4.04 points at 3pm after the Chester 3p.m. obliged at 3/1. I was debating whether to carry on as I was quite happy with a return of 4.04 points profit after 1 and half hours and 2 thirds of profit target of 6 points, 1 from each meeting, met. Bird in the Strand scenario. However, carried on to the bitter end and ended up 5.96 points down. Having rued my bad judgement/greed from previous session when the first evening race at Lingfield obliged at 7/2 I quit on the basis that I had met my target of 2 points profit from 2 meetings, which proved to be a good decision, so ended Saturday at 2.46 points in loss on my strategy. I believe one has to be flexible and use the Bird in the Strand philosophy I use with my day trading and apply it to the horses too. If I had made the right decision and followed it I would have been 7.54 points up not 2.46 points down that’s a massive 10 points loss. C’est la vie. Still learning to be disciplined and cut out greed

Good morning Harry. Did you try the system at Hamilton/Newmarket/Pontefract? Another plus evening. Hamilton loss 1.5 points from 7 bets, Newmarket profit 3.71 points from 6 bets and Pontefract profit 3.21 points from 7 bets net profit 5.42 points from 20 bets.9 WINNERS 8 2NDS and 3 outside first 2. Afternoon racing not so good but still in profit, just 0.25 points. Haydock loss2.99 points 7 bets, Newb profit 1.24 points 4 bets and profit 2 points 3 bets total 14 bets 5 winners 4 seconds and 5 outside first 2.

Good afternoon everyone. I agree Harry is the best. In all my years of betting (50) I have never come across a tipster like him who has genuine inside information and comes up with some very good winners at excellent odds. Impossible for everyone to be a winner but the 11/1’s 8/1’s 7/1’s etc more than make up for the losers and the ones that only just got beat but that is horse racing, there may always be another trier that beats your sure thing by a nose,sht hd etc.or the jockey got it wrong. How many odds on or very short odds favourites fail? I tend to steer clear of odds on favs as the risk to reward is not good. I remember I backed a horse called Bula years ago when I was borassic in my student days which was a terrific horse and odds on with my last fiver, unbeatable, but low and behold it got beat. I have not had time to back test the system but it has worked for me when I have had the time to spend the whole afternoon at the bookies or at my computer. I usually like to use it if there are a number of mainland events in order to spread the risk. One can tweek the system so that one aims to make just 1 point a day whatever that is say £100. Annualised that is the equivalent of £26K. I.e if the favourite in race 1 is 4/1 one would bet £25 . if it won that’s £100 and you quit for the day no more bets at all. I sometimes do that when day trading. Set a target adjust the plan and when reached quit and relax. Sometimes achieved in 10 to 15 mins or first half hour of trading starting at 8 am if market conditions and the charts and candlestick patterns are just right. Am busy today with client’s work but will post again tomorrow on the horse system subject. Harry did you try the system and how much did you make?

Good evening Harry. YES. Standard 1 point bet could be £1, 10, 50 or 100 even 1000. came up again today. epsom 1 bet 2.25 stop, DON 3 bets 1.25 stop chep 1 bet 2.5 stop ham 6 bets loss .70 the long odds on no bet but others were ok,leic 1 bet 1.25 stop. total bets 12 profit 6.55 points

Missed your At first light post Harry. However the conservative 1st fav, no odds on, stop at 1 point profit at each meeting strategy paid off handsomely yesterday with all meetings being winners. 9.97 net points profit from 11 bets. Ling: 2 points net profit from 2 bets (one race), Catt: 2 points net profit from 4 bets, Uttox: 2.85 points net profit from 3 bets, sand:1.25 net profit from 1 bet and Worc: 1.87 net profit from 1 bet. Level stake 1 point per race.