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And if Stage 2 won't be Equity-free

We'll point CF and call him a thief

We'll point we'll point and call him a thief!

AND ONCE AGAIN!

Stage 2 will be Equity-free!

Stage 2 will be, Stage 2 will be

Stage 2 WILL BE EQUITY-FREE!!!

COME ON! LOUDER!

Stage 2 will be Equity-free!

Stage 2 will be, Stage 2 will be

Stage 2 WILL BE EQUITY-FREE!!!

MrJimV:

The company:

1. Intends
2. Hopes
3. Targets

Non of those constitutes a 100% certainty, doesn't it? : )

CF a few months ago has clearly stated that "the company intends" and "hopes" for Stage2 to be 100% debt.

It is not synonymous to "the company guarantees" etc.

Some of the bird-brain members seem to completely disregard it.

We all hope it will be 100% debt. Can we be 100% certain at this point in time? Of course not.

I managed to top up below 36p today regardless of "debt or not" speculations. The motive and logic were simple - the mine is getting built anyway and in a few years time those shares will be worth much more than they are today (with or without further dilution).

Can we say today that the Stage2 funding will consist of 100% debt with 100% certainty? Absolutely not.

Regards
KOH

Andygolf

Not sure if we speak soon - you are leaving me speechless....

You completely missed the point.

Nobody says it won't happen, all we say that nobody can be 100% certain at that point in time unless you have some insider knowledge unavailable to the public.

If it's to much for you to comprehend, I'm afraid I can't assist you.

Regards
KOH

Andygolf

Honestly Andy, you are not as dumb as you seem to be now , are you?

I'm sure you are bright enough to understand the difference between 100% certainty, belief, likely, not guaranteed etc aren't you?

According to company and CF the company "intends it to be" and "hopes" it will be 100% debt, which is not exactly "the company GUARANTEES" and WILL FOR SURE", is it?

Why people still invest despite the accompanying uncertainty? I'm sure you are clever enough to figure it out too - once the mine is built the company will (with or without dilution) be worth much more than it is today.

Jesus...Where all these one-track mind people come from? Have some balanced consideration before you say anything - it doesn't hurt.

"Tomorrow isn't guaranteed"

Shut up...Be reasonable instead of trying to be clever.

Tomorrow is guaranteed in comparison to uncertainty level accompanying Stage2 funding being 100% debt.

Andygolf

You are confusing personal belief and certainty again.

Friday tomorrow is guaranteed, Stage2 consisting of 100% debt is not.

Andygolf

If it turns out not to be 100% debt and after all what you've said about Stage2 being 100% debt over the last few days, the only reasonable course of action for you will be to close the LSE account and disappear - the disgrace level will be too great to bear.

If it is 100% debt we will say - "Andy, you guessed right".

Perfect timing - I'm getting paid in a few days.

Down please down!

mrJimV

; )

Thanks mrJimV

Yes, "The company intends" and "at this point it hopes".

Not exactly "The Company WILL", is it?

Regards,
KOH

Andy,

Sure. 100% debt scenario for Stage2 however still remains uncertain.

And yes - "hopefully" is the right word to use here. Hopefully well timed for the forthcoming Torp and hopefully 100% debt. Let's hope for the best.

Andy,

You confuse confidence with certainty.

You don't need to inform us about your recent purchases in order to prove your confidence or faith in the project.

100% debt scenario however remains uncertain until it's officially agreed and announced, whether you'll buy another 100 million shares or not.

Andy

You know what company told you a few months ago which is not exactly the same as knowing what WILL happen.

Regards
KOH

Andy

It is not 100% and even if it was you wouldn't know that yet.

Be reasonable.

Guys,

I don't even consider Stage2 being 100% dilution, I mean come on...What I'm saying is that it could be e.g. 80% debt and 20% dilution or whatever they agree based on current TORPs etc and that scenario (or similar) is still possible. The good news is that after the Brexit the Government will be desperate for success (at least in theory) and timely completion of the mine can provide that success :)

I don't really understand why you COMPLETELY IGNORE the possibility of further dilution. You talk about it as if the 100% debt route was 100% certain....I understand what you are saying: we've been all promised "all debt" scenario by almighty CF, technically government has no reason not to fully support the project, bla bla I hear you.

But the deal is not done yet, is it? And the reality is that we can only speculate at the moment. If it was that clear and simple as some of your posts suggest, the SP certainly wouldn't be in mid thirties atm, would it?

I hope for the 100% debt perfect scenario too but wouldn't be surprised at all if there was some further dilution element involved (within reason).

"I still remember very clearly when I sold SXX just before it rocketed and missed out on £140k. And I have forgotten about my losses"

I remember thinking about closing all my positions a day before Brexit Referendum but then thought:

"it will be all fine, all stocks are down due to temporary uncertainty and I don't wont to miss a rise once the "stay" results are announced and everything's back to normal" and so I kept them all open.....
Then woke up in the morning, saw the sea of red and couldn't access my HL account for like first two hours. All lines busy, no chance to get through either.....Gladly didn't panic on that day and didn't sell.

Bytheway, I still wonder what's happened on that day and if any other users had difficulties accessing their accounts in the first hours of the announcement day? People (or institutions) who kept the ability to react that morning must have made millions by purchasing at a huge discount........I'm still angry thinking about that day when trying call brokers and login to my account every 10 seconds for like 2 hours......

It's also a lesson and food for thought in case another day like that happened again in the future (it just a matter of time - for whatever reason)...You can be prepared, have funds on your account etc but if you can't access your account or call your broker in that crucial moment then you're fc....ed.

Any ideas of how to prepare in advance / maintain ability to buy / sell in the moments like this?