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I hope for positives. Positive might be just holding steady whilst we're still getting through corona.
I do think there'll be a small price increase up to results though with people positioning themselves in case there is good news. My guess is there would be more of this than those selling anticipating bad news. Just a guess though
Perhaps. Alternatively I think the absence of negatives may even be enough for the share price to recover some of the losses from the previous high.
Regardless it wouldn't surprise me if there is a small lift before results (good or bad) as people position themselves in case there is good news.
Thanks, I'm sure I'll get another shot. I should set buy limits but I quite like just watching the price move for a few hours before buying. I watched it fall most of the way down to 1940ish... Thought there was more to come so went away for a few hours and when I came back it had recovered.
Can't win them all.
I don't think we'll get too much movement for a little while longer until we start getting some positive momentum in anticipation of the next results
Not yet. I missed the 1910 bottom. I've deposited more funds in my stocks and shares ISA (new financial year so allowed to put more in again)... Will await my opportunity again
I'll be topping up if this dips to low 1900s.
I think fair price at the moment is bobbing between 1950 and 2050.
Any thoughts?
I wouldn't expect to see too much more growth in the travel sector. I think the new "positive" news is already factored into the share price. It recovered the small dip it took a couple of weeks ago already.
Good luck to you though
It's like you're backing up my argument! No, we're not ferrari yet.... That's why we don't sell as many cars.... And why we're a 1/15th of the value
That's the target though. Its going to take more than 12 months
If aston was selling as many cars as Daimler then aston would be worth 78billion. Aston aren't selling as many cars as Daimler... That's why they're worth 2billion.
You're comparing apples with oranges. No one is arguing aston is the finished article. That's why the share price and company value is still relatively low.
However the share price has the potential factored in. If aston still isn't selling cars and is still making a loss in the coming years then you might have a point...
But harping on about them not selling enough now is pointless and tedious. We're still at the beginning of the journey. Takes a long time to turn a huge ship around (accidentally topical) but if you do it successfully then we'll all be rich
Agree with the other comments here... He can't be judged on this race alone. Everything that could go wrong has gone wrong so far. He was on a 1 stop strategy due to starring at the back of the grid. This wouldn't have helped his tyre condition when he went into ocon. Admittedly it was still a fairly poor error.
Lots of drivers in new teams are going to take time to settle into their new teams. Perez and tsunoda were the standouts but that's because they're driving for 1 of the 3 fastest teams on the grid.
Without improvements we're competing for 5th/6th in the championship. As such picking up any points is a success and will be difficult. Bahrain is meant to suit us... Hopefully with the changes our car might unexpectedly perform better at other tracks
Disappointing. Hopefully our race pace is more competitive with our midfield rivals
Nice to be consistently moving back in the right direction. Not worried about "falling through" support lines...
Hopefully that's that in terms of profit takers at this price. Time for new investors to slowly crank the price up before the next sell
I totally agree that aston finishing midfield isn't going to hugely detract from the benefits of being in F1 with all the marketing and brand expansion etc. I didn't mean to imply that so my apologies.
I was more just sharing my disappointment as an Aston Martin F1 fan.
Ferrari haven't suffered as a company from a couple years in the doldrums... But they do have a previous decades worth of victories to fall back on.
While AM finishing in the lower midfield won't harm us... It would have been dreamy (however unlikely) for us to have been really mixing it up at the top end of the field. It wouldn't have hurt our marketing departments efforts. Maybe we can make the necessary adjustments and still start with a bang
https://www.betfair.com/exchange/motor-sport/event/28984522/multi-market?marketIds=1.176868488
I work for a sports betting company. The markets are normally a good indicator of where the teams are at.
Before testing we were ranked higher than the other midfield teams. Now we are below mcclaren, alpine and ferrari.
I don't want to be a negative nelly. There is hope. If we clear up the reliability issues and our design changes do make us the 3rd fastest car on the grid then happy days we're back to where we aimed to be. The sad thing is that after 3 days of testing there is no proof of that. All we can do is hope.
I think SP fluctuations are to be expected. Analysts vary quite differently in their forecasts. Its difficult for the market to accurately evaluate aston.
Directors are just like us. They will want to buy on the dips too. I don't think they're manipulating the SP
We lost loads of testing time on day 2 with a faulty gearbox.
We lost over an hour of testing at the end of today with a power boost problem.
Stroll and vettel were the 2 slowest drivers in the whole field today. Admittedly due to problems we didn't get to do fast runs like the other teams... But that's a problem in itself.
Read up on what happened today.
All is not lost.... But that was a horrendous pre season test. Worst of all the teams by a distance
10 new models BY 2023. That's averaging more than one a quarter. Doesn't seem so bad to me. Even if it means the end of 2023 and its averaging just less than one a quarter it doesn't seem too bad to my inexperienced eye.
Part of the new philosophy is not flooding the marketplace. Build up demand. You don't want to be releasing new models every other month?
I did say you wouldn't be happy with thoughts
C26... If you were to put your positive hat on... What are the reasons to be positive?
My answer will unfortunately be boring to you. I dont know the sales figures in and out and I haven't studied the end of year results.
My positive "facts" would be the type of people who have invested in AM. The fact Mercedes have invested and will supply us with electric technology that otherwise would have had to been designed at great expense.
And lastly the fact that many big car manufacturers have had similar boosts in the value of their companies due to better than expected sale forecasts in China.
I know I haven't given exact figures and names. That's not really my jam. And I know it's not going to influence someone of your experience compared to myself (I'm a newbie).
But there are positive "facts". Whether there are positive "sales numbers".... I'm not in the know and am happy to admit that
Thank you c26. My interpretation is you are less delighted with the end of year results compared to others. You have concerns that mirror the authors of articles like the one you posted and some analysts.
But you're still holding your current position and we look forward to and hope for improvements in the next results. Thanks for sharing.
Hopefully the SP doesn't fall much lower than its current levels and the dip from 2200 to 1950 was because of the negative reasons you've outlined (as well as a natural adjustment after the surge)