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No, they were trying to protect us. Thank heavens all the capacity was needed. Much better than if it were needed but not available.

We ARE doing better than 2 years ago. There are a range of treatments that have greatly reduced the likelihood of dying from COVID. Several were licensed in the last few weeks.

It has a very short doubling time, partially evades immune response from both vaccination and prior disease (high reinfection rate). The proportion of cases that result in serious disease and/or death are unknown. There is some suggestion that mortality is lower but there is no hard evidence for this yet. However, it is clearly still capable of causing serious disease - hospitalisations in the Gauteng province of South Africa and elsewhere are now rising exponentially.

Yes, its a lousy situation. But pretending there isn't a problem and spreading fake news to that effect can only make matters worse.

Variance from rolling averages for individual diseases. Some of which have been higher than the average during COVID and some which have been lower. I presume that's what you meant by all causes ?
Again, what is your point ?
The total excess above a rolling average has been much higher during COVID, due to COVID. Not because people died of something else with a positive COVID test.
In additional far greater numbers of people haven't died from serious cases of COVID, but they have been left with permanent health problems. Focusing on mortality alone isn't helpful.
Whilst you might like to try and claim the number of people suffering from COVID restrictions and changed priorities in the NHS is as significant as those suffering from COVID. IT ISN'T.

What an idiotic thing to say. If you have a figure from all causes then there is no excess. Use some logic please !
I don't know why you are quoting the omicron case ? Yes, it is unknown if covid was a cause of death or not. So what ?
Are you trying to claim covid doesn't kill or leave people with permanent disability ?

For that to happen and 'herd immunity' eventually be established there would be a huge toll of permanent disability and death. Yes, the lucky majority would have nothing more serious than a cold but the minor proportion of millions is too many.

The mortality rate is a headline number that attracts immediate attention but is only the tip of the iceberg. Many times more are being hospitalised and left with life changing after effects. A common one is permanent loss of kidney function but there are others including neurological damage. Whilst serious illness illness accompanies a significant proportion of infections there will remain concerted and significant efforts.

This spreading fake news is now getting ridiculous. Hospitalisations in South Africa are now rising exponentially with a lag that was expected.

FFS give me strength. Neither ventilation or passive supplementary oxygen are as commonly required for serious Omicron cases as they were for delta. However, they are still serious cases - which require hospitalisation and treatment.

? It's only ever used when there is no alternative ! Supplementary oxygen is not a critical part of care for serious Omicron cases.

It's still putting people in hospital with serious disease but there appears to be less impact on the lungs. Patients need hospital care and covid treatments but do not appear to need ventilating.

Looks like the market has suddenly noticed there is a world-wide shortage of LFTs and that they are critical to the management of COVID. Alistair said some time ago that demand was not an issue and they would sell all they can make.
The clock has pretty much been reset. That reset comes as HUA is expected in the very short term and everything in place to make hay whilst the sun shines. Fingers crossed for this week or next.

It’s the short doubling time and vaccine evasion that is the concern. How does a million new cases per day by January 1st sound to you.

Do you take psychotropic drugs on a regular basis or do you get a kick out of posting utter b o l l o c k s ?
It’s just a constant drip of utter nonsense.

Hear, Hear !!
They could also mention the increasing build up of Russian troops on the border with Ukraine too.

And all in complete ignorance of the basic fact that there is a shortage of LFTs. Demand outstrips supply and as Alistair correctly said, they will sell all they can make.

PS might become very critical if the row over Janhangir genocide in China leads to trade sanctions.

Surely you aren’t surprised that AgentB was talking nonsense as usual.

It’s a research study to investigate their performance. Not a validation step for regulation.

What nonsense. There is no such accepted wisdom. Do you mean like smallpox, or polio ? If you wish to use scientific arguments then take a relevant course of education. Otherwise please just be quiet. Your falsehoods and misinformation have been noted several times.