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Russia to guarantee Ukraine security !!!

Yeah I can see that really working.

Ridiculous

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Troajan Z has stood up against Russia?

To an extent, but mainly it’s the people of Ukraine and a combination of US and EU, plus other willing countries.

Z has given a few Churchill type speeches, but I get the sense that history will not be kind to him.

Purposed elections is an interesting development.

Why now and who is pushing that agenda?

Russia have wanted elections but this feels different, perhaps part of a bigger picture?

There has been maybe 4/5 peace plans, which would indicate that this is part of the negotiation process.

The major two points surely relate to territorial concessions and security.

Z states will not give away land, but in my opinion this is a play on words. Russia retaining land and Ukraine not giving it away can happen, it’s all in the wording and perception.

Why does Z need to present another peace plan.

His representatives spent three days in Miami with US agreeing a peace plan.

Chess - Absolutely agree, any hint of positivity and these posters simply without fail rubbish it.

They get annoyed and worried the war could reach a settlement, they seem to prefer 1,000s being killed, whilst the posters tap away on their keyboards telling everyone that the so called experts know nothing. You couldn’t make it up!!!

If Putin states he can’t agree to certain points purposed in the peace document, the media headline is “Putin doesn’t want peace, stringing the world along”

If Zelenskyy doesn’t agree to certain points the media report “Ukraine wish to remove certain points, negotiate”

Both Presidents doing exactly the same thing, but media report it totally differently.

Zelenskyy saying everything depends on today’s conversations and waiting on feedback from Russia/US talks.

That’s your opinion though isn’t it, it’s not a fact. Pure nonsense.

Talks only started about 20 minutes ago.

Some people are so desperate to fail that they would gladly see 1,000s continue being killed. Wonder how they would feel if it were their sons being killed.

In my opinion the two issues that are the most difficult to reach agreement on are territorial concessions and security guarantees.

Ukraine is fully aware Russia isn’t going to retreat from all territory gain and Russia is fully aware Ukraine requires significant security guarantees.

These two issues I’m sure are the main focus of peace discussions.

Nonsense, talks haven’t finished.

Will anything come of the talks, who knows. Personally I believe it’s more likely to be some positive comments towards peace and progress made, but additional work required to agree a small number of points and that work will commence very shortly.

Talks aren’t off, they are just about to begin.

AIGuru joined 3 days ago and already 150 posts!!!

Some people simply don’t care how stupid they appear, just ridiculous and embarrassing.

So many posters posting nonsense, making statements as though they are facts.

The efforts for peace will require negotiation and that is happening, it was never going to be case of either party simply agreeing to a plan.

What are you talking about “Russian capitulation…….Putin trial”

You are talking rubbish, posting incessantly.

“If this war ends, it ends Starmer”

What complete nonsense.

Europe is definitely big and strong enough to take on Russia, but they choose not to go fully in.

My understanding is the 28 points are the framework for discussion regards a peace settlement.

US want sign up by next week and then it’s down to Russia and Ukraine to negotiate around these points and reach agreement.

Neither side is in full agreement with all 28 points, so they need to negotiate and compromise.

If they can’t then it’s back to 1,000s being killed, and a war of attrition. Who is likely to prefer attrition, 100% Russia.

Also I think America is saying…….we have had enough, we don’t want to be involved in any capacity any longer. You guys have been fighting for 4 years, you need to sit down and hammer it out and reach a compromise. We are tired of being involved. We aren’t here to fight wars on your behalf, sit down and sort it out.