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Because , Belar, imho the 23.5% AAU is now all about possible "Jam Tomorrow" , the Gant chart and road map is lacking and I'm guessing many of our longterm holders and posters have lost their appetite. Other than that there is a Covid scare in Europe, the pound value is down, USA politicals and law courts are twisted up and Brexit and Boris may not be what was hoped for. Other than that the general upward trend of shares post September isn't happening (certainly in mining) and we haven't exceeded the elusive $2000 per oz gold price most folks anticipated by Christmas.
Thanks for that, Deano. He'd gone " quiet" .Did anyone find " Dic from Rugby" . Some were looking but all I knew was that he'd changed to "Richard" . Quite a character with his spelling!
John, I think the " poster on here" you were referring to is/was M20 ASH and I was musing about his posts just a little while ago in view of Strangerstill's observations.
Other than that I have generally been going along with your recent views here and accordingly have not opposed you.. I certainly do not see Ariana as a multi-bagger anymore and feel it will be eclipsed by the major partner in our JV in the fulness of time. Dr K currently appears to be collecting Directorships galore (which to me is no surprise given his geological accuracy and success) but I don't know where his future priorities may be for this Company which he founded. I feel that Tavsan plus possibly a few more exploratory additions to existing mining prospects might keep our sp holding its own for a while up to our coming second dividend. Thereafter imho My guess (in the words of Startrek's Borg) is that " We will be assimilated " long before we see any product, profit or dividends coming out of Salinbas. We have never attracted the big institutional investors for whatever reason. Our sp has always been that of a mining minnow (yet our former near-namesake, Arian Silver, having virtually sunk with all punters re-emerged as Alien Metals (LSE=UFO) and their shares promptly rocketed upwards (briefly) . We unearthed our gold okay...but the bain of our posters here has always been our PR choices
Hi John.
I have made some good money in Mexico (and still continuing!) but do take into account politically they have moved to the left and with USA & Canada are also focussing on NAFTA thinking and rather wary of China..Sadly I don't have grandkids 'cos my kids prioritized reaching six figure nest-eggs. which they've achieved ..... but there is still time....
Glad that you " own millions of shares", John. Somehow I had an impression you had substantially reduced your investment here a while ago. I'm hanging in for the coming dividend but I will have to think seriously of staying in thereafter. I did say (last January) that this year was going to be a real roller coaster for Ariana and so far that's exactly what is has been. I don't see us getting in the real money for several years yet and "our" Tavsan now will only get us 23.5% or thereabouts.. You can bet your sweet wotsit that it will be a long trail before Salinbas actually earns money. Much will be about drilling, evaluating and ruminating over the potential underground assets. That's why our SP has stayed relatively low and perhaps why the 30% fall in Sandstorm shares has followed a rather " star-spangled view " of a get-rich-quick coming Hod Maden. The real world is with opportunities like Rivian ( NYSE = RIVN). It's all about picking the right electric vehicles or perhaps lithium & molybdenum....but in the right country. I invested in Panther Metals but have just got out. That's gonna be another long haul to get your money back and there are going to be drillings and placing all the way in both Oz and Canada. Probably the same will occur with Cyprus copper too.. I guess the good part is that we have faith in the guys and gals directing our interests...even if we are not in the money yet. There are others with AIM company investments who have been waiting far longer and many who have only fulfilled their trusted entrepreneurs lifestyles!.
Deano1D - I was also looking at GDXJ two days ago, which is tempting, but with respect you need to consider these implications and bear in mind what happened to mining in El Salvador.
https://www.dw.com/en/the-battle-over-greenlands-untapped-natural-resources/a-57138809
I did very well investing in Greenland's molybdenum a few years back but the company I bought into sold out to a private entity.
However a Canadian firm, Greenland Resources is imminently hoping to offer its shares and could do well...but again providing the Greenland Majority Party doesn't halt them.
https://www.globenewswire.com/news-release/2021/09/10/2295161/0/en/Greenland-Resources-to-List-on-Canadian-NEO-Stock-Exchange.html
Now get yer hands out before you meet a sticky end!
The Inuits need Denmark to keep payiing out to subsidence their existence but at the same time they want full independence
RetiredBanker. I couldn't insert a para previously due to Browser faults but your "DRIP" comment about AAU dividends threw me somewhat. I have been invested here for many years and it took a long time for our sp to climb above 2p. So far at best It reached over 6p, which in hindsight might have been a good time to sell up and wait for a fall (like about now.
My understanding (and I believe many others on this board) is that Ariana was set up to prospect for gold and precious metals, principally by geological survey.. It was not specifically intending to hand out regular dividends but obviously hoped for some recognition of increased share price based on increased asset value and perhaps future production.. Consequently the current three-part dividend was offered to reward longtime shareholders for their support and presumably, their agreement (and vote) for the recent JV with Ozalid. It was not suggested as far as I can remember, that there may be regular further dividends.
You may not see a regular 10% annual DRIP again from AAU although it is possible that in the fullness of time and after Salinbas and other ventures come online iand hopefully drive up the share price the new JV may agree to pay out dividends again. Without this recent 10% three-stage dividend we shareholders would now be enduring a loss of around 33% over the last couple of years or so.
You may be better of, RB, looking for a sunken Spanish galleon full of treaure!
Greetings, Retired Banker and your comments are most interesting. I hope Deano will offer comment in due course, especially because you are probably nearer my age than his (which can affect some of our " rants" ).
It seems to me that you have retired in a State whose Governor, De Santis, imho is a most evil man. Florida may be okay for rude but well-heeled retirees from The Big Apple but for the locals who struggle on minimal pay to bring up their families, life in FL is most certainly no bed of roses and for them medical help and assistance from their local government organizations is far from satisfactory. With respect, I also feel you omitted adding " cold" into your description of the UK and I can't help but kinda smirk when I think of the humidity, frequent thunderstorms and even hurricanes that descend on Florida. As far as I am concerned the place is basically a swamp with some tourist attractions chucked in here and there. For me the best thing from there are I-75, I-95 or to follow the sunset to the Pacific Coast or even Mexico along I-10
Sure you have offered up some interesting alternative taxation methods but you have not touched on the real root....Corporate Greed and individual " graft" , backsheesh or whatever you want to call it. On the one hand there is a need for strict regulation. Poisoning water, adding unhealthy ingedients to food and permitting lobbying need to be prevented with strict regulations. But of course that will cut down on corporate profits. . Look at the potential incentives for politicians.
Income for life after just one term in Government. Rewards of one kind or another if their lobby increases the profitability of "Big Business" or if imports from elsewhere are curtailed to support "Big Pharma" . The politician appointed to a particular branch in the Cabinet while his (or her) relatives make money in the same public domain.
The Blairs or the Thatchers? Sorry but I prefer Dwight D Eiusenhower (the last Republican who properly acted for the eklectorate). I can even find a soft spot for Harold Wilson (but not Barbara Castle!)
On the face of it Bernie Sanders has hit the spot on our nation's health costs and many other ideas must appeal. But, realistically the missing part is how to pay for the thinigs on his menu....and that is when the Right-wing start to howl " communism. Words like Socialism or Nationalization do not go down well with most Americans....even if the media point to Sweden being a socialist country. Lets' face it Mister Retired Banker, if Americans had any idea of the taxes levied on Brits via VAT, income tax, tv licences, motor taxation etc in order to pay for NHS and essentially the British "essentials" their eyes would be opened considerably. This side of the Atlantic most things are a lot less (unfortunately that can also mean wages) but my guide to most UK folk is that the shop price tag in our two countries is about the same....except one is in dollars .
Look at the gold price, Paul, during the Trump years much worse than today. But I do accept your Biden bomb. He inherited a real super-snafu when he got into the White House and his hopes to to bring changes for the better are constantly dashed by either elements of his own Party or a total rejection of virtually everything he needs to do by the Republican Party The latter clearly will attempt to get back into power by frustrating the Democrats at every opportunity so that in the meantime little is achieved to benefit the country and in consequence the electorate might vote them back .
However, if the Democrats manage to establish a real working majority, either through gains in the " mid-terms" or by Moscow Mitch losing his grip on some Members who might otherwise finally decide to put the " good" of their fellow Americans before the greed of Big Busiiness then imho we will see real change and Biden's Bomb will do what Trump promised but never completed....namely to clear out the swamp. That would indeed be very bad news for the so-called " privileged one per cent" . Meantime it seems to me that a combination of Bojo and Brexit will hit ya'all in your backsides and in your wallets.. ( Remember , Paul, that I once suggested to you that Starmer would depose Corbyn.)
" Yup ask anybody sensible if they want Biden, Trudeau or Ardern in charge of their country?"
Congratulations! - ....You have just identified the current leaders of what are considered to be among the best countries to emigrate to..... USA, Canada & New Zealand.
"As for the Dan Andrews guy in Melbourne, what a nut job".....In November 2020, a Roy Morgan Research showed that Andrews' approval rating had increased by 12%, with 71% of Victorian electors approving of his handling of his job.[56]" . The biggest "nut job" that comes to mind is Donald Trump (your emperor of lies & corruption).
" What have we got to do to rid ourselves of left leaners and people like yourself who hold us back?."........Listen, understand and support the millions of people who want a " regulated" society that is not totally influenced by a tiny percentage of very rich people who have (in some but not all cases) made a fortune by lobbying or even directly corrupting regimes in order to evade having to comply with environmental, humanitarian and safety laws so that their "Big Business" interests may not have to face controls which might otherwise "regulate" and thus cut seriously into their profits. Tax avoidance ( I didn't say " evasion") through a Cayman Islands Account can perhaps lead to a Peerage with the right influences. Distributing one's wealth with a suitable degree of political " savvy" can get you a Corporate very senior position or maybe even a Cabinet post (and lifetime pension to follow. ). Right now it seems that Facebook/Mark Zuckerberg is not the current flavor of the month for many political TV presenters over here...That's evidently all about personal privacy and kids' algorithms.
I realize there is always an element of jealousy between the " haves" and the "Have nots" which can influence political choice. For your part, Paul1D, I would suppose in a previous era you would identify with the Lords of the Manors or as I might think - the " robber barons" even . I guess if I wasn't Robin Hood I might have been the principal architect of the Magna Carta. My own political thoughts have have evolved while living and working under the directives of Richard Nixon, Harold Wilson, Josep Tito, Francisco Franco, Antonio Salazar, Ronald Reagan (" just say No"), Margaret Thatcher and let's not forget the now rather infamous Tony Blair/Baby Bush partnership.
Finally, noting Willowman's recent post , wouldn't it be great if AAU & PALM both shot up 10% in tomorrow's AIM postings?.
Re: "This is a good interview regarding Australia" .
Helen Dale's remarks are broadcast on a right-wing outlet and criticizes actions within Victoria (a State generally regarded as left leaning).. I could just as equally point to the lack of controls during the current pandemic , disregard of voters rights, medical assistance for the poorer sector and bullying/Trump-- influenced actions of the " right wing" conservative State Governors of Texas and Florida. Having said that, the overall concern must be the desirability of any Federal or State Police Force being deliberately " militarized" which could, under a dictatorial regime, endanger the human rights of the citizens.
The United States' "Fairness Doctrine" (which President Reagan got rid of in 1987) specified that the holders of broadcast licenses were required to make space to discuss controversial issues of public importance, and that they should do so in a manner that was honest, equitable and balanced. This was intended to ensure that viewers were exposed to a diverse range of viewpoints and its demise is widely blamed for contributing to the increased polarization of American politics over the last few decades.
It’s likely that had it continued to exist, it would have represented a challenge to Murdoch and Ailes’ (Fox News) vision for a partisan news operation. The question for UK viewers is whether Ofcom’s interpretation of “due impartiality and due fairness” will allow GBNews the same opportunity to air right-wing voices and arguments without an appropriate response and what, in turn, its impact will be on British politics.
Finally, Helen Dale boasts of Australia solving the problem of migrants. Should we follow on by also sending our Haitians to Nauru or Papua New Guinea or pay the United Kingdom instead and ship them all to the Falklands?
Yes, samewise)....like I've been saying many times ... the " rot" starts with Rupert Murdoch ..be it Fox News, his News Corp or even local tv stations owned thereby plus most of his "anchors" therein. Then of course over my side of the pond the "Big Lie" is being perpetuated and the Party Funds are filling up...all ready to be creamed off to the faithful in due course. But " draconian" ? it's bad but Myanmar, Belarus, China (and perhaps soon Hong Kong may be a helluva lot worse . I see PALM sp is up today and AAU isn't. But then it's Friday when all financial troubles emanate from the US and especially Wall street and Goldman Sucks! (LOL). Have a great Weekend, ya'all.
Hi LoB. I wonder how many other Arianans have recently invested here?
Hi john. We are indeed very close as my average is 3.56 after the deal but, like you, I had concerns about the JV as well as wondering how much Dr K's geological interest may be kinda somewhat less than totally Ariana these days. So I felt I needed to cut back somewhat 'cos I have been over enthusiastic in buying Ariana stock. I felt the time was right because usually with a divvi pay out the SP falls and sure enough this morning it just did.
Very interesting article, Paul 1D you pointed to from Kitco (I like to check their gold pricing regularly) and I have concentrated my investments in recent years in North America and Oz and got right out of eastern Asia and Africa. AAU is now my sole exception
II credited my divi instantly (which for me was ahead of the NYSE day's opening which was useful). However I invested in PALM 'cos Dr K is Chairman and all the RNS made very interesting reading. Like john I have some reservations both about the years which may pass before Salinbas has a big impact, the fact that we are now only a quarter of what we were before the recent JV and clearly Dr S has other interests to in mind and over the years has put together a fine crew.
So for better or worse I have reduced my overall holding by 1/6 and increased other holdings which are making money quicker. I can always take profit therein and re-invest if the JY starts looking very promising.
Investors seem to be getting nervous of the time lapse before Hod Maden will be earning money for Sandstorm. It looks like it could extend into 2025 whereas the original hopes were that by sometime this year exploration would be fairly well completed and mining might start the following year. Then there is the fall in the Turkish currency and whatever Erdogen might do next.
gwm - I'm not sure how to rephrase to help your comprehension of what I am referring to.. For those contributors who have been involved long term in AAU, I am sure they got the gist of my comment and with respect you may need to go back some years on this Chat to get the full picture of this Company's progression. Basically our investors have at the very least doubled their money in less than 2 years. I doubt that you will achieve that by trying to quantify likely dividends and/or tipster's recommendations in public advertisements. First and foremost Ariana Resources has been set up by first-class geologists to explore and hopefully discover potentially valuable sources of rare/valuable mineral deposits. There was never any hint of handing out any dividends to investors. The situation has changed following the recent formation of a Joint Venture, especially since the so-called "Hot Maden area of Turkey is expected to yield a very large amount of gold and silver. The nice part is that Ariana might now share around 23% of the production income if our Salinbas location is developed and is as good as our directors believed. However production is not imminent but somewhat in the future. As johnpwh has just pointed out , regular didends is something else and will, at some future date, be totally dependent on what the newly created Joint Venture may feel appropriate in due course.. Meanwhile our highly-qualified geologist/director also has other " irons in the fire" to look into as well as well as AAU.
Finally, it has frequently been my experience (and also that of other contributors here) that every time Ariana puts out a RNS with good news, it does not usually send the share price careering upwards and sometimes quite the reverse happens...to the chagrin of many punters. Overall the majority feeling is that our SP has been always undervalued so far. PAUL1D has just added a valid pointer on here. Okay now, gwm12?
Usual SP valuation response to another Ariana Success, Borrowf, but that's been the norm for years now. And as for our " gold bugs'? Price down yet again...I'm not seeing that vaunted $2000 an ounce. No profits...just wishful " prophets" DYOR