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Patient, Tidying up acquisition. Nice to hear an intelligent, informed response, instead of the usual knee jerk, we're being shafted, moronic, reaction from the armchair experts. Happy Christmas.

Well I hope it opens at 124.50, but a trade at 17.37pm is unlikely to affect the sp. I don't know why, except that google often give false sp info, especially after hours, On the nasdaq the vod sp equates to 121.8. Still, fingers crossed for tomorrow. We need to get back to over 1.26 to justify holding on after ex divi. Come on Santa?

The market closes at 4.30, so that was old trade at 124.50

BaffledbyZIRP. I think you should go back to the planet ZIRP, because you are clearly not on this planet. Before covid, people were spending/borrowing like there was no tomorrow, Now of cause many are spending less because of covid, but we all hope of course this will change. Satoshi is a con man, who I am sure has made a fortune from bitcoin, with the help of people like you. Fiat currency is far from perfect, due to the natural greedy nature of mankind, but Bitcoin is a 100 times worse. Unplug your brain from this con, & get a life.

BaffledbyZIRP. Your post sums up exactly how people like you are being conned with this anti fiat currency nonsense.

I know this is not the bitcoin forum, but I studied bitcoin for a long time & lost money shorting them because I realised they where basically worthless , but the market said otherwise, & I didn't have the balls or money to hold the short for long enough, now they have recovered, I realise the price is totally rigged to suck in mugs. However I learnt a lot about anti establishment, anti government, anti, stock market,anti regulation, anti fiat currency, etc.to scare me about the views of the cult following it has. Many have lost a lot of money on bitcoin, & will continue to do so. It is a mathematical certainty, that more bitcoin investors will lose, than will win,& most of the winners are rigging the price. Back to vod & all ftse shares, these are real assets, not like bitcoin. Many of you complain that you are being left behind faang stocks, but it is about risk & fake valuations. I am not old enough to remember the tulip bubble, but have seem many burst bubble's in my time. For me vod may have been a bubble in the early days, but now the reverse, I think?... I was lucky to be around for the privatisation give away's, &the b/society free shares, so made a lot of money then, but now it's much harder.

Nothing big about a £61m uncrossing trade for a company as big as vod.

Fleccy, I am fascinated by what you say about your son who you say made bitcoin, & discarded them. Do you mean he mined them & sold them, or just threw them away. If he had mined 1 bitcoin it would be worth about $18,000 today. I am a massive critic of bitcoin, but of course I wish I had bought at $1.

Newbie642. Do you think vod should not bid for more air space then? Surely if they didn't that would be a big mistake?

Fleccy. I like your 100% poss' but although I am very poss' it's more like 60% + for me. I am glad I didn't respond to your post earlier which I thought very confusing. I realize now that you just quoting CSDI. which you didn't make very clear. Good luck.

seen_it_done_it. If you have seen it & done it then why cant you understand why some people are selling..That's how it works, some buy & some sell! Not rocket science?

Ok, forgot the k.

CSDI. FAANG'S for explaining what it means, but i'm not that keen on acronym's. B.T.W. sorry, I mean buy the way, still waiting for your promised amusing post with regards to you no who? Afraid he might green filter you perhaps? Man or mouse?? Happy Christmas? I hope.

Hello fleccy. I am sorry to other posters to drift of the vod subject but FAANG & bitcoin were discussed. Bitcoin started as a ponzi scheme(look it up) The bigger fool theory, however it has turned in to a way to suck in investors by massive non regulated manipulation. Many say the stock market is rigged, but no way as much as crypto currencies are. The difference between the tulip bubble & bitcoin, is that that the tulip was a true ponzi scheme that collapsed, bit coin on the other hand, although it was a ponzi scheme, has been re invented as a way to suck in suckers. The mantra of bitcoin is buy & hold(hodle) as bitcoin fanatics call it, saying you only lose when you sell,but course it is the opposite. It is complicated, but loved by the tech savvy, young. I have tried shorting bitcoin, & won a bit 1st time but then lost more the 2nd time. I think any intelligent person realises bitcoin are basically worthless but that is were the bigger fool theory comes in. I have more vod shares than you(more fool me) & agree with most of what you say. To me the more I read about FAANG etc makes me more confident about vod as a real asset, not a bubble asset.

ftseexporer. I've don't know what FAANG stocks are, but if they are anything like bitcoin, then there is nothing ironic about the name Robinhood, Those who believe in bitcoin think they are taking from the rich,& giving to the poor (So ok ironic only in that it is a con & in fact doing the reverse) some young people who are anti establishment , anti government, anti regulation, anti fiat currency,& think that they know it all. The best thing that could happen to bitcoin would be a total collapse,but it's so manipulated by the so called whales dragging in investors, it may keep going unfortunately. Still perhaps this is good for vod, as I presume it would not be classed as a FAANG stock.

mole_man. So can we take it that you have sold all your vod shares & moved on then?

Hi nuri123a. You are right of course when you say the ftse is lower than 20 years ago, but you are being very selective. If you had bought the the ftse just before the 1987 black friday wall st crash, the biggest % wall st crash of all time, you would have made a 250% profit. If you bought after the crash, a 340% profit. Also in jan 2003 the ftse was 3567. Of course it has had been bad overall. I think the big question is, would you prefer to own shares in an over valued market, or undervalued market? I think the answer is whether you are a seller, or a holder or a buyer. If the later then perhaps an undervalued market is the best option. For short term trading, of course overvalued is better, as long as you bought when they were undervalued & sell when they are overvalued. Sorry if this is all a bit too obvious, but I think worth pointing out. Good luck everybody. Looking a bit undervalued at the moment, so perhaps a blue friday tomorrow.

Rich TheNewbie. "What's more stupid,being invested & continually being negative on the stock your invested in" Of course you are 100% right. But he/they are too stupid to listen. Of course there are some who have lost money on this share,& are honest enough to admit it, which is completely different. Good luck everybody, it has still been a very good last month or so, so lets hope it continues.

Hi Hkphooey, I'm glad if I can brighten your day. We should all just be able to have a laugh, & stop complaining that's all I'm saying. Good luck, & I think you will will get back to 1.87. No doubt we will hear from the gruesome onesome before long?

Hi CSDI. Lets all hope tomorrow will be good, less that a 4p fall would do. With respect, & I have to admire your patience, I think you are wasting your with Mikey, who is clearly not all there. But good luck with that one.