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It feels to me like Oliveira is not invilved any more and I follow your logic. Shorters are bashing the down though so are obviously not expecting imminent news.
I adore short-squeezes as I detest shorting. It destroys shares and companies. But if news were that imminent then I don’t really get it.
PhilG. I support your post fully.

DM
Good luck to you too. And ( almost) all of us.
Your post is appreciated. I have only been in 4D for about 10 months.
I agree there is a lot of bull but it’s just people being people. It’s not related to news. No-one has a clue!!. Only one or two people have personal agendas I feel. And that’s just personal issues..not company stuff.
You being stronger in your convictions re. ypur investment is good though…whatever the reason. I complain a bit because it hurts being on a moderately high average and osing money on all my investments. But that’s human considering.
GL to you

Sanguilera:- you are perfectly entitled to your views. But there are many who see investing slightly to enormously differently. Because you are entitled to your views I would never say you are wrong…but they are how you personally see investing. I certainly don’t see it that way. It is nobody’s right on a chatboard to give investing advice. If Phil wants to have a moan, then why not? He’s made his bed and has to lie in it whether he likes it or not! I have been investing over 40 years. I have ****ed up many times. And succeeded.At the moment I am on a downer unfort. But 2 months ago was doing well. There are no rules re. investing. Just caveat emptor…be careful ( let the buyer beware). It’s not just a bit of fun for hords of people. Joe Public ( 0 % interest rates) has entered a minefield. It has changed so much in 10 years. It is a roulette wherl with loaded dice and the private investor is cannon fodder. Many people discover the hard way.
You are entitled to see it your way. I don’t agree. I feel that Phil has a right to complain about 4D timelines not being adhered to and the private investor being communicated with as also the market. We matter too. It was not like this before Lehmans and the crisis in 2008.
It is now a free-for-all short term punt casino. Warren Buffet’s style was the best ( leave your investment indefinitely) but now does not always work.
It’s such a complex subject.
I support Phil in his frustration. You are fortunate not to have anxieties.
Empathy for another’s decisions and even errors is often helpful to them. To err genuinely is human. It is very easy to find fault in others
( I appreciated your factual post yesterday btw)

God I miss Vincent Price. “ Darkness falls across the land….the midnight hour is close at hand” Thriller. Great vid.Great 80’s haircuts.
And have seen all the vampire films going back to Hammer Horror and Christopher Lee.
Now I read they exist and are leeching on 4D. Nah…… it’s just the mm’s sucking the life out of us right now. And that canny SOAB Stepen Oliveira who has had this all timed to perfection IMO. Not even sure if he really was a true distressed seller any more.

Edc
What comes close to standing by your convictions? Teeth gritted. Not a lot.
It’s a sorry life without passion.

Investing while there is a value disconnect is like driving behind that US Securicor van that shed its banknotes all over the motorway yesterday.
Trouble is that people usually don’t see that it is the perfect time. They are blinded by fear of being in a lowly priced share.
Unbelievable that 64p is not inundated with buyers. Oliveira can hold the Sword of Damocles as long as he wants. He knows what he’s doing and the effects.
Research is crucial but in so many cases he who dares wins. What is this life without calculated intelligent risk??
It’s dull.

PG
I do know where you are coming from.
I am in a Sargasso Sandwich.
A serious holder of 4D and Ncyt.
Double the trouble.
Frustration comes nowhere close to the feelings.

Lambo-world ( typo)
Referring to a less than run-of-the -mill somewhat pricey automobile from Italy.

Ridiculous playtime today.
Last 30 seconds the shareprice goes from 66.2 ( sell) to 63.8 ( sell)
That’s about 5% on a couple of tiny AT trades.
My contempt for this market -if you really can call it a market-changes nothing .
though. It’s just contempt. Disconnect from any fundamentals and has just become a one-horse race. Today was just run by algo trades. Hundreds of them. It is the same on the other side of the pond. 2 different worlds. Those who earn their money inc.many who serve society, and………….,this virtual Lombo-world.
Time out.

I would agree that downside is almost certainly pence. Notwithstanding poor results and even then.
Tbh I am just sad I can’t use this as an entry point. If fresh punters only knew…

I don’t disagree Porky.
I am just interested in the present” white noise”. I don’t rule anything out one way or t’other. I am just trying to interpret the plethora of 10,000 share being sold.
And the offer being held by tiny trades. Which usually supports the bid.
One could argue I’m focussing on the tree and not the woods, but it’s all we have.
Ultimately I never expected Oliveira’s sell, so I could be on the mark or way off it.
I have been shafted too many times to be “optimistic” but there ought to be no reason to doubt some info before Xmas. ( in spite of my dire self-indulgent post yesterday)

Analysis of trades = mm’s facilitating a seller atm. Small AT sells keeping price static. Large sells. Funds/Oiliveira/?

I’m all for some poetic justice. Love bottom feeders missing out and shorters getting fingers cauterised.
Looking at Nasdaq , it has been a helluva day.If we think it’s volatile here.,..
Plenty of buyers as it hit its low.
I never expect news but would love it to land even if I don’t think it will in a hurry.
But wouldn’t it be nice…if it is positive of course.
The only retail selling will be panickers crystallising a big loss.
It’s all mm fun and games right now.
If we see this plummet tomorrow, the shorters plus the” rest of the world team” will be straight in like a shot. Nasdaq chart today worth checking out.

Interesting action
4D plummeted 37% an hour and half ago.
All time low.
Then quickly retraced 24% as buyers came in .
Now down around 12%.
Looks like a real in-job or shorters gapping up. A lot of money been made in 90 minutes. 24% move.
Not just a casino over here.

If it hits the fifties you will get a tsunami of buyers. Further downward pressure possible as today was run by AT sells. Little retail.
I am not bothered when results arrive. Just whether they are positive. They are massively overdue from “late summer/early autumn” so there is nothing preventing a longer wait. I care more about the contant and quality.

Something in the water?

EdC
Wrong mushrooms mate.

Last post I hope. I have posted far too much.
Overnegative post aside( I am not a happy shareprice -bunny today) ….I still stand by my suspicion( right or wrong) that an RNS is not forthcoming short term .
End

Rog
I’ll have a moan at times about non-forthcoming promised RNS’s . As did another poster on this thread! And it was a moan.
But I make my own decisions uninfluenced by anonymous posters.
A lot of heartache would be saved if all visitors to chatsites did that.
It’s a bit like stepping over boundaries. Chatsites could become real discussion forums where people aren’t afraid to say what they think.
One well-known poster on the sister thread just wrote he has nearly everyone in green. That’s sad because he gives out a lot of helpful info to be discussed.
But there are so many abusive posters I don’t blame him ultimately.

EdC
One thing I am not is dishonest on here. Or gnerally speaking. I hold a huge amount of shares. Do you? I have bought £25k more in the last week. Of course I could becmaking this up. But I’m not.
I can appreciate my post can annoy holders . I have apologised if I did that. But I don’t appreciate my boundaries being stepped over and a load of trollop being said about me or my shares that you could never know anyway. I don’t talk bo**ocks but it seems a lot of people here do.
Yor post is far more intrusive and personal than my whingeing.