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@Porky is not wrong to speak of a value disconnect. To understand markets fully takes decades for most decent investors and is constantly updating. Value and valuation are not simple model-based metrics. That is to misunderstand the whole concept of vslue. A model is like a horse looking through blinkers at the race-start. Value has many variables and measurements which are not wholly metric.If they were, the stock market would be for model-statisticians and mathematicians only.
IMO he deserves a little credit for being factual about news items whilst clarifying risk/reward.
Not necessarily you, but so many people are ready to find fault in posts and posters. People without shares in pwnership should, imo, not even bother visiting.

There is an argument for not publicising when you sell out. It’s like “et tu Brute”.
But I don’t believe that’s why you did it Buyhigh. I can’t know, but I believe you have been honest. Lot of people struggling here though. Many people don’t give a **** about how others feel and I think it is unfair to call you names. Your honesty cuts other holders though…hence the response.
You have the right to say what you want though. Other people ( leeches) are downright abusive. You are not.
Inpersonally believe you will not see 20p and with options where they are plus results to date, that a Placing will not happen. 3 months of Russia has taken its toll plus China covid plus inflation, so money has to be negotiated hard!!
Ultimately ….we’ll see. Who would’ve thought oil would go from $19 to $110 in 2 years.
ATB

Buy high
Each of us makes own call. I wish you the best.
I reiterate that one of the reasons this price is so low is to separate disillusioned private investors from limited number of shares.
Oldest strategy because it works.
But that is never an admonishment.
All the best

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You have answered your question correctly. I hold a large amount and it is nerve-wracking.

Risky
Needle is being held wiith two hands firmly down.I could speculate many reasons . Sentiment bound to suffer- inc. my own. Best to just let it be and leave in my case, as I will not sell. There is no substantiated concrete reason why , and selling at this price?? One of the reasons why it is here…to shake unsure investors holding smaller amounts. Sure, the funding is an issue but it’s not imminent. Let it be.

I second that emotion Staylong as a sufferer myself!
But I’d rather burnout than fade away :-)

Thank u
Prob. were sells at 35p then

Strange.
Your buy of 50k sent the price immediately down .
And selling was blocked.
It’s mostly algo-controlled so I don’t get it unless it interpreted your buy as a sell.

Possibly/probably/maybe:- 33-36 range trading now. Makes the City quite a lot of algo-money. If I’m right, best to leave and wait for any of the further updates. Share is divorced from company news. As we see, short and fleeting rises. If not going to capitulate (everyone’s choice) then imo healthy to try and just accept the unlikeable as being unlikeable . A lot of frustrated holders. Rightly so. Sell or accept it as being how it is.
Or just ignore my posts . It’s fair enough to.

Robins. If you are at 65p. relax and enjoy holiday I hope. The market is jokers wild I am afraid. At the moment. Mm’s want to keep many many shares ( apart perhaps from blue chips) as low as poss. Companies with big institutional holdings have more clout. Volume affects price as mm’s fulfill supply/demand. But the trend is to keep sentiment as low as poss so retail holders get fed up and sell. It’s the case in many many shares..particularly AIM but also the 250. So many dynamics at play…but ..controversially perhaps..imo …one of the biggest is to separate impatient holders cheaply from shares in reasonable companies. Buffet wrote of it. Keynes did about pre Great Depression stock markets.
Since 2008 this market has become increasingly day trading and “ casino-like”.
AT’s rule the roost and pay off the Lambos.
Takes superhuman patience to be a mid or long term investor. Frustration is endemic in holding. I have held one company 8 years. But it has become a day trader’s market really. Even Dow/Nasdaq/S and P.
Detached from fundamentals.
SO departed . 2 great RNS’s . 35p. Yes it is ridiculously undervalued. And funded until end of ‘22. The market is white noise .
Bit of a rant….but it’s all become a bit silly.
Time to switch off .

More range trading ahead . Eyes to heaven.
Time to just pocket this and not bother looking.

Just look at SNG to see how mm’s rule the roost. Up /down. Jokers’ market.
But, as today’s RNS supports, I have not yet sold a bean ( honest).

You gotbit Scrambler. It’s how the market makers work. Short term daily. Up when they want shares to fulfil demand, back down when they want buyers again. Makes for a vacuous market, detached from its source ( company).

I would put it this way.
The person at the other end isn’t working like they should!
Shareholders own a portion of the company and should be treated as such.
Shame on IR

Well that green box must be about 4D , mustn’t it. Not anything personal.
Eyes to Heaven.

Porky
Thanks!
Yeah I’m not doing so great considering a half of what I have is in oil and the co. share price has actually gone down because of the govt. regime tax !!! With oil at $114 and that’s just WTI. Ncyt…’nuff said! Lost 80%
And then there’s 4D which is being suppressed more than I have ever seen any share. Blatant. So I’m on an all-time financial low( apart from when I lost it all 2016). Not a moan. A description. Was doing ok Sep last year. The oil..ya couldn’t make up!!!! But I am used to getting it wrong:-) And then right and wrong again.,…
I am bad at holding cash. Believe it or not, Warren Buffet was the same….hated it. Used to put it all to work. But ..umm..another level , eh?
ATB Thanks 4 sharing

Oops
I meant I AM seriously overweight.
Ignore the “ not”.
Shame posts can’t be edited

@Porky
I don’t need proof. And I’m not undermining what you say. It is needed.
Are you still(!) genuinely adding??
I have added and added and am not umm…quite seriously overweight now. ( not just abdominally).
Thiscis in no way to undermine your post .
What you wrote is needed.

There is no excuse for poor IR.None.
Too many companies get away with it as it is not regulated and shareholders were respected stakeholders in the old days but are now simply cannon fodder.
Sloppy.

Excellent measured thread.
Quietly confident is a great place to be.
I have been burned very very badly -usually down to my own naivity -so am constantly looking at reality and looking at possibilities with sensible skepsis. The insecure part of me craves the optimistic though!! But history has taught me to stay real. I never expect anything to drop in a timely fashion, which is good. Expectations affect nothing. As DP rerereiterated in the interview, it is the science. It can only be, or it will ultimately fail. IMO it is an emotionally healthy thing to temper high expectations . Healthier to just have positivity ( or why invest?) and live with what is often a tsunami of not knowing.
( Psychotherapy is based on this assumption too fwiw). Often a hard thing for us , but it is ultimately embracing the truth.
Wait’n see . We are funded long enough not to fret.