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I think Kairos are heftily stamping on the share right now. They may have made a late call here and risk burned nappies the longer they stay. Doing a good job at suppressing the price with perfectly timed AT’s. I bought today and absolutely immediately the price was crushed with AT sells. Happened Weds. too. After January, shorters are playing it more riskily as news of new business can arrive suddenly. They usually have insider knowledge and I think they were in cohorts with the BOD to allow the cheap buys. No proof . No emails. No SFO or FCA ‘cos they know they can get away with it.
Kairos particularly will be very keen to keep price down. It isn’t going anywhere yet!!
No contracts before N. Year. Well into N. Year IMO. Shorters know this and will be here a little while. On previous occasions in PFC they have exited in 1-3 months but apart from early this year always left around 2% shorted. 0% in Jan. I think they will suppress price long enought to buy back. I bought some at 71.6p and instantly triggered 6 AT sells which brought price down further to around 70.6p. All computer triggered. That’s what we have to contend with. But they will prevail unfortunately.
Shorters rarely lose. Hedge funds or opprtunistic funds or shorting companies are darned efficient and just don’t get caught. They are even in cahoots with other funds and even the companies themselves, as I think personally was the case here. I don’t think this is all coincidental re. the drop and director buys.
Market is rotten to the core. The more we recognize that the more we can learn from them about their manipulation.
Agree Greg. Ignore useless following post. Price being carefully held down. Short position overall is down. As per my link, demand looks very very strong, especially now that China is opening up to covid carnage. It had to be done if they won’t vaccinate fully, so it’s at a helluva cost according to hospital reports but I don’t think Xi could have stopped a mass rebellion. US inventories down. big freeze hit drills, shale not performing, so oil price supported and exploration encouraged…thus looking ok for PFC 2023 once shorters have taken pound of flesh and gone. I give them 2 months.
https://bisoninterests.com/content/f/2023-outlook-buying-the-seasonal-sale-in-oil-gas-equities
Oh don’t be such a prat “ yeah-baby”. I’m sharing my opinion on an open forum. Always have. You have 208 posts. I’ve been talking stuff on here for nearly a decade.
In 2014 I was mug enough to lose C£100k on POG which was shorted down to a Rights Issue. I’ve been in huge companies like Glencore (2015) which was shorted by Golman Sachs down to 75p, Tullow Oil , loads more. Read it again and you will see that I say I am sharing my experiences and am happy to be wrong.
Posters like you, who project sh** onto other people contribute nothing.Read what I wrote in my posts and don’t be such a prat.
Hoping you are right and my hypothesis is wrong. I too am hoping they will be long gone. I have been in so damn many shares which have been shorted. I’ve lost a lot of money due to shorters and been so naive. I have been flabbergasted by how long they stick in a share when they are in it.
It has really surprised me.
Hoping you are right this time and I am wrong. Just sharing my experience. I detest shorting, but it is the govt. which allows and actually encourages it, ( new legislation is in process to allow less short regulation ) so it’s not their fault in a way. .
So here’s to hoping you are right and I am wrong!
This is all about the shorters. They are in control of the share price as is clear today.
They are usually in on a share for awhile so I would expect them at this level well into next year. Trading range 68-74 IMO.
Only my opinion. You can never call a share. But I think the leeches will be bleeding Pfc for a while yet.
All those people reading stuff into Asfari. Plain silly. Does anybody know him personally and asked him these things??
No-one has a clue what his intentions are.
I have known billionaires, many multi-millionaires. Some hold tight , some don’t give a toss about their money as they have so much. Best not to read intentions apart from he made enough yesterday to buy a few Rollers. Would I personally care if I were thst rich . I am the same age. Actually no I would have plenty and wouldn’t give a damn. Asfari? We’ll never know.
5 posts in a few years of holding. My , you have a deep bottom drawer full of cobwebs.I would have sold them by now if I felt like you. Good luck to all holders by instilling doubt?? “ I hope I am wrong”. Why post anyway?
Waiting for post No.6 with anticipation.
A fair uplifting analysis. Not that I would agree with your take on shorters and the share value. They do control the share price…..very very carefully and cleverly. Fundamentally disagree. And a couple of other things too. But a nice uplifting tract…..the first bit I go along with anyway. The congrats bit. I am still fully in and also-like yoe- support others who are.
Duncan
I had noticed that too and follow your logic. Kairos are very newcomers! May have been sitting under 0.5 but shot up to 0.75. WQ reducing . Astaris been here a while and cranking up too. I I can never really get my head around the shorters as it is their profession. But Kairos are taking it close to the wire if they only shorted at recent prices…around 70-75p. What they will do?? Well probably act in concert. Chatting it over with each shorting company tonight.Almost all of us love to see shorters panic, but they rarely do. They control it all via algo anyway unless huge volume ( unlikely) or fear of it. They have a lot of buying back to do so I don’t think we’ll see any rockets in share price( I contradict an earlier comment that I rethought). From here on all the news is out..so it’s all about controlling the price low enough to cover. I feel sure they’ll try to bring it down tomorrow for that reason ( and hope I’m wrong).
I think if it rises from here it is likely to be Phoenix-like. Not just a few p. But I still think the algo 10k’s and 15k’s have a part to play in suppression. The UT auction may have allowed some shorters to refuel, but tip of iceberg of 4%.
Tbh I am not complaining, but there is no way that this was not planned. If you wanted to buy shares out of the closed period ( after the results) would you not engineer the price down to a half of what it was??? Shorters were informed of this about a month ago. Rather devious methinks. There is NO way this was not a leak of info or a suggestion off the record of a fund raise perhaps. All behind closed doors. The rich get richer. I don’t believe the purchases and the drop were not linked. FWIW
That was a surprise bounce, but I am wary. I 100% believe this company will boost its s/p next year, but I know how devious mm’s and shorters are. Trust them not. Broker ratings not bad. Outperform is still decent. Shorts have to be a little careful here that buyers don’t start coming in with force. Their 0k and 15k AT’s only do so much and this is costing them. But it is heartening for one day. See where we go from here. Algos rule the roost atm. Still a ridiculous price at half whhat it was 6 weeks ago!!! This was not such a terrible update. 2023 looks far more promising .
Roll on the New Year
I hate people who make efforts to make people feel worse on a bad day, no matter how well-veiled the comment may be.
This too shall pass.
Cut holders some slack without the questionnable pleasure involved in trying to worry them. How warped.