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Cannot know . But suspect shorters reducing their black hole. They have to buy back sometime and we are nearly Q1.
Hypothesis but as feasible as accumulation. And who would not accumulate at this price? Mm’s were dropping it to 51.2-51.6 to accommodate very very regular buys of £15,000. Some of £10,000. Yes there were sells, but I did not see the scale of pre-xmas. But I won’t count my chickens…
We are pawns in this game.
The prudent thing to do is buy now. I can’t. But someone ( or more than one) is!
Seen more large purchases than for months.

Many multiple sets of £15000 buys .
The price is lowered in order to facilitate them.

Live trades:-Far from selling, there is certainly someone or mor buying in today. Large well-manipulated series of buys.

Ppay no attention to charts.
Price is tightly controlled.
Charts irrelevantBeen lots of 1 shre deals. Autobot balancing. Fallacy about communication between MM’s and inbound news.

Typo:-crappy
Lol :-)

A Xmas time with some joy and fun,
I wish to every single one…….,,who is invested here. Even the ones who are mean to me or are shorting ( pointlessly).
I hope everyone avoids this crapy illness and we can see in a damned bloody prosperous 2022 which can open up our choices in life!
ATB to all holders
CRL

Looking at trades it seems to me( may be wrong) that mm’s are fishing for cheap shares. Relying on investor weariness. S/p rises..p/i sells and it drops. Been like this all day. Is a good sign if they need shares. Of course I may not be right. I did expect a very slow and lowball mm rise . The almost always do.

Well said mate. All for one and one for all.
Same boat and it is good to feel not alone at sea in a coracle. My ave. is 10p below yours but it matters not because this company should be worth a lot more than that. I am losing nearly a half too. But it’s on paper. I lost a lot on Ncyt as it went up a lot from £2:30 on the day I was doing a Bed and ISA. !!! I am almost breakeven on my other share Trin…areal bargain. I did very well on shares for 20 yrs until Lehmans ( held NRock/B and Bing /RBS and Lloyds) . Lost a decade of profit in one day in 2008. Then lost the rest i POG’s rights issue 15:1 and the oil crash . Ended up totally broke. So it’s good to have anything at all now but 7 years of working like stink and investing to get a bit back took its toll ! Have a helluva lot less than 10 years ago. But am a much wiser man for my loss…if not recovered.
So it’s good to hear others’ stories. 99p is still well below Placing. I assume you hold a fair wedge. I hold more than is comfortable ..trust me. But I would probably have bought at 49.8p if I could have!! He bought in at 50p . Whether that’s the floor who knows? A share can go anywhere. I held RBS at 10p in 2008! Glencore at 65p in 20-5. Ovado at 65p too. Doh! Not the world’s most proficient investor but by God I’ve learned so damn much ( rather not have). No more ranting.
Well done for hanging in there Robins and you fortunate devil CB for buying at 52p.
Like you and George Michael said..you gotta have faith.
Here’s to a better Q1I hope.
Wish you good Xmas.

You don’t sit alone in that boat.
But I would like to think that we are not being stupid…going on the data provided so far.
I was in SNG at 44p and all seemed lost as institutions in the US were playing monopoly with the share ownership ( see Polar Capital).It was dire. Yes I don’t think it can really be compared as I-beta was the first covid treatment and we were at the full mercy of covid 19. 4D is not the same but the principle is. I can’t guarantee we will make money or emerge unscathed. I can only use my very long and paigul history of shareholding. 4D’s share is where it is because of Oliviera. Shorters are just temporary leeches. Ocean C’s need for the money came first. The share price( like SNG) has become divorced from reality and the company. And is heavily manipulated for short term gain in a laissez-faire amoral City-chum market .
Patience and a certain degree of resignation are important. And a chosen , perhaps slightly naive , trust. But BOD have put their wallets whete their mouths are.
I have no funds to buy and hold so many already. Made my bed. Lie in it.
Let the games continue as I have been here so damn many times. But I have learned that ( with a modicum of Warren Buffet trust) not to sell a bean when the mm’s dangle their charms at a cheap price. Why would they do this unless the share was worth holding?
To me it’s let it be.
March..April….fine. Should know the score better then.

Best to just tuck all this away .
So easy to get obsessed with sharewatching when at this level ( and my average…and a few others’) it is pointless.
Mm’s will try to relieve us cheaply -of that I’m sure. I have learned many of their ways of” fooling” us. Baiting us to part as we are share-weary.
At this stage I feel it is prudent to just leave and not quite forget. As a large holder.
Those on a quick short term profit…that’s fine too. It’s different. But I would say don’t be fooled into selling too cheap! It’s what they do :-)

Never mean or meant to be rude Sophie 98. One gets a lot of people who are not quite who or what they seem. And some very abusive ones too. Because they are anonymous. Bb’s are strange places.
You have done well. Read the RnS’s on what else is in the pipeline. 4D is just at the mercy of the market right now. But what a time to buy!!!
IMO share now best left until next year.
One way or other , as you say, sp will look after itself. A hard time when nursing very large loss as mth/lth though :-/

No conspiracy theory.
MJ has chosen his name well. He has no evidence for his assertions. Knows nothing more than anyone else. It is so easy ( and a delusion) to convince oneself that one of many many hypotheses is the right one.
Some people on here have agendas. Here’s another!
Are you a genuine investor on your second post ever…or are you someone who has another pseudonym. You may not want to say. Or may not tell the trith anyway.
Most one post wonders also have an agenda(?!)
These BB’s can be a joke with very little sensible discussion unfortunately.

He lost $50m in Forte. He has already offloaded over half his holding of just over 13% of shares. About 6.1% outstanding. Not kind but could be a lot worse. Offloaded most at 65-80p . Originally bought at 50p and up to £1.35 wedges.
This price is doing him no favours.
The precise reasons for this alleged” distressed” seller needing the money..we cannot know. Ocean Capital may have obligations or …who knows?
Leave it all to him.
Shorters are playing a slightly risky game on his tail though.
See what unfolds.

CB
If you search back to the RNS concerning the agreement, I am sure there were milestones mentioned. Precise? Can’t remember.
Re. FDA . Dibetes. IBS. Asthma. Cancer. Utterly rife in the US. My son went to Uni there and we travelled a lot. Until covid was going every year..sometimes multiple. The medical business there feeds off the unbelievable level of obesity which itself feeds the fast-food economy. Big circle. If Omicron hits them ( likely) then all hell will break loose and you may be right. But the FDA has many many “ mouths to feed”.
But you may be coming from a different place from me re.FDA.
Mine is anecdotal regarding the incredible level of poor health and the industry which feeds off it. 2020/21 worst stats. ever on record. Due to covid .

It is a fallacy that shares have to keep plummeting. Occasionally they do. Usually for a particular serious illiquidity issue. This company has been funded by Oxford BS in the US for another year. MBiomes are already proven in the scheme of nature..let alone man-made applications. Merck are in here. Directors sitting on a half mill loss ..not nice. But they darned well committed to it. Shares very very often do not jump to an investor’s wishes. These days they are very commonly manipulated. It’s just how it is. Can’t stand the heat? It’s how the devilishly amoral corrupt stock market works. The wise investor Mr. Buffet was referring to being greedy only in good companies . SO has hos own agenda. Sooner he bu** ers off the better. Shorters will be long gone. This is absolutely the time to buy yes. Wish I could enter. I hold too many. Hold and hold and hold .
God I wish I could have entered here…where people are fearful and selling.

Hey Robins. No worries mate. No grouches held. It wasn’t serious. I like your posts and you seem a good bloke. I just get fed up with people being personal. Had a lot of it here! Just look at what my post dredged up. All so unnecessary. We ought to support each other. Too many people with agendas so I guess that stirs it up and as we can see, people love to jump on the bandwagon. Too many people prefer to talk about other posters than the company or investment case.
I support you holding on as I am.
I support your posts.
I genuinely wasn’t uptight but who cares?
I have another friend who posted today. He very very rarely does. He too holds a lot and is hanging in there.
I expect nothing this year. So best to just leave 3-6 months+ in my opinion. Or longer. Olive is playing a game with his 6.3m shares and the leeches are latching on. Awww let’em . Let it play out
ATB mate Good weekend

No evidence. Shorts could easily push this down if they chose.
Oliviera may however only want min 50p. His original entry price.
My mind remains fully open and I will just watch what transpires.

You missed my point completely Robins.
My heart rate is 65 and b/p 120/95 . I am at the gym stretching and working on the bosu and as chilled as it gets. I was making a point that this is worth holding. Or if a person is unhappy doing that then sell. And trust nobody to make your decisions for you.
It’s not a very civil response from you which surprises me tbh. I wasn’t uptight when I wrote it and am not now. And even if I was..so what?It’s ok to be uptight if you are as long as you don’t bother others!!
I am never uncivil to people in life or here . So who gives a toss if I had been uptight anyway??? Live and let live.
I was making the point that shares can go anywhere and bounce back massively. Ocado was my biggest early sell. Held at 65p. Doh!!! So you missed the whole reasoning behind my very straightforward post. Shares bounce back if good companies. And don’t trust doomsayers or loony optimists without evidence. DYOR and make own mind up.
And sell if you can’t hack waiting.
Seems pretty sensible to me mate.
I do get fed up with people focussing on people. Very tiresome. A lot of it here.
You have a history of decent posts.
Maybe it’s time for me to exit for a while.
Too much tensio between certain people. I don’t like arrogant know-it-alls who change with the wind …but I don’t have to believe them!! Notable absence of the most optimistic poster(s). Shame.
Too much stress. Sometimes it’s me but not guilty lately Your Honour
Have good eve.

1) Low sentiment is one of the aims of the price action
2) Why tf should you believe where someone says the share will go.
Have you met this person? And even of you had why should you think they know. Nobody knows. Utter tripe. Yes it may. No it may not. Yes it could get to 15 p. Not it could go up ( though I doubt for a while.
Just sell if you think it’ll go that low. Job done. Live with consequences-good or bad.
I have been here so damn many times in 35 yrs…mostly in the last 10 because of interest rates and the rise of the punter.
Glencore got to 65p
RBS10p
Lloyds 22p
H/L £6
Plus 500 £5.50
Man Group £1:10p
BWIN bought out
Trin 1.4p
BP £2
Ffs Ocado 65p
I could list maybe 25 others I’ve been rock bottom in. Sold out too early
The only one that went down was Carillion.
Low share prices p**$ people off. Can’t sit it out? Flog them then.
I am not right or wrong.
Neither is anyone else privately investing
They know zilch more than me or you
Crap s/p = crap sentiment and unhappiness. Flog or hold Or even better..buy. Or is that worse?
To me it’s better but why believe me?? Or any other bu** er spouting drivel about share prices.

Oh passing comment. This is where Ncyt were for 9 months this year. Largely due to neglect. One day it doubled from its low at 2.30 to 4.50. Sure..retraced. But 4D moves faster than that.
I’m gonna do what Warren said. Make like Rapunzel and sleep a long long while with your value share.