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I agree we should stick to what we know. But what we know about the abnormal environment certainly IS within our comprehension. I make an effort to make sure it is. It is what we don’t know that is always the issue.

PG ..good post. There is no-one here who changes their take in that short a time frame( every 2 weeks) but I have seen it recently with two long term contributors. Hot-cold-hot ( within 5 months)
Roasting-freezing. ( once over 5 months)
It’s a tad Machiavellian , but smell the coffee I guess.
That’s why I remain a cynic of some peoples’ honesty. They post to influence others. I’m not interested in that. Life’s bigger and I won’t be party to others losing money. I am not a fan of duplicity in any sphere of life. But it is there no matter what I think.
I agree re. the broker rating. It’s positive.
But it is good to remain open minded( but not so open that your brains fall out).
Nothing has changed fundamentally except market antics.
Sometimes I sits and thinks. And sometimes I just sits( Popeye)
I’m just sitting .
Open-endedly.
And waiting for antics to do what they do.
This is a very painful investment and I am on 90p with a v. large holding.
So…I made my bed. Lie in it and let it be.

Interesting to note peoples’ agendas and how they change dramatically according to their own needs and desires.
I suggest sensible investors stay cautious of what they read and follow their own ideas!!! They should do that anyway. But I watch posters sway to and fro…wishing to influence other readers.
It just undermines the objective value of dialogue on BB. Hence makes me less likely to read it . Shame.

I think they will probably be ok about it. 53p options. And they have detailed knowledge of progress in the tests that we don’t have. It’s meant to be confidential…often leaked. But I just think SO needed to liquidate his holding
It’s good to get an upbeat rating but it won’t change much until the selling stops. But I am not sure I would want to be shorting right now . Unless it was money I was prepared to lose. I still believre in a long wait which is ( to me) the best approach.
My p/f is down 35% in 2 months. So waiting is not desirable but ok as it is an occupational hazard.
Nice to get a positive broker rating but at $35 I think they picked the wrong mushrooms.

I was in SNG through 2020 and benefited hugely that July. Great company. Great product(s). Interferon-beta is one helluva marketable lifesaver. from covid to cancer to copd. Not in it now. But its efficacy was already at work long before covid. I have a very close relative with copd. That’s why I bought. Companies and products should rarely be compared unless the market is identical. There are similarities but this is a 4D board and not a promoter for SNG. Nevertheless , it should not be put down. I see 4D in the same position SNG was before covid but with far more wares to test and sell…and like i-b…all the data is promising to date.
Good weekend to all supportive decent holders ( of 4D)
Lots of time needed
I’m ok with that. As are the BOD+ Merck.

You are right. I have known this for a long while. Watched it happen. There are so many software programs used now. Many monitored. Some not. All centralised.
I’ll take your cue.

MHB
Glad you are sticking up for yourself pridently and intelligently. Pay no attention to irritating counter-attacks. I had them 6 months ago so I can’t read this poster as he was uncivil, mildly abusive and shall forever stay in green.
Ticked up your posts.
To me 4D is doing it scientifically and measure by measure. We are barnacles on the hull. An irrelevance. But if we can put up with blatant market games like today indefinitely ….that long…then the immuno-results will speak for themselves.
Let impatient sellers depart. Let shorters do what is immoral but legal. Let US investment managers sell their whole bloody lot. Sit on the hull and wait for 4D to be out of the p/i limelight. Shares chocka with p/i’s are easy meat.
Keep the reasoned and balanced posts coming.
Hemo…if you are for real …you did invite a criticism if you are promoting your alternative investment. It’s not very subtle. You did get one in the neck a bit though.
But I do agree to ignore your investment as it’s not the right thing to do to poach.
Today was a joke. Like my other loser investment Ncyt, 4D needs to be left to unfold. With options at 53p I can’t see another Placing. Yet. When SO is out, the BOD will be freer. At a 90p ave I can’t win. Buying more will hardly dent it and increase risk. But the results today were abovecexpected. Again.
This share will not recover for quite a while. Quote me. And shoot me down as you wish. Is fine.

Sangijuelas
I , like robins, am confused.
You were almost ****ging 4D off only a month ago ( ?!?)

Any danger of some intelligent, or at least objective analysis of the share some of us are in. More like a catfight/playground tiff.
Filter who you are not keen on .
Or talk about Ncyt?
Me. GM surprised me with his selfishness. But he’s gone now. Ncyt starts from the bottom up. This will take a year plus or much longer. Anyone stll gonna be here. I have held one share for 9 years now. Nearly breaking even.
Take a moment and ask what you want and if it’s worth waiting. I am a super-fit ex Gladiator contestant ( truth!!) who has taight martial arts for 38 years until covid. One year with little cardio and an op that went wrong and OD on anaesthetic damage organs which have left me with a 2nd half 2021 from hell. I will work my way back to as much full fitness health as poss.
But health is wealth. Money is great. **** ing amazing. Lost 65% in a year but not crystallised. Why share personal things? Because sometimes it takes life to teach you about life. I want my money back. But I can wait as I’ve known worse.
Nobody has to agree. My life not yours.
But it might make someone reflect.
I’ll go now
ATB to all civil holders

Capri
Thanks. One does not have to be uncivil or spiteful to disagree. Some/many just don’t get it. Usual reason is that they feel personally threatened when disagreed with. I do too sometimes. But I know it’scmy problem. The only one who it spills over onto is my wife. Guilty as charged :-(

Harchris I support the content of your messages.
Capri 1..thank you. I try to see the truth as it really is. And I hate arrogant criticism of others.

Don’t pay attention to ranting posters criticising real people.
What they have in their bank account, they lack in their understanding of people. It is callous and deeply narcissistic to whooppee one’s own stupendous market-interpreting abilities at the expense of others. Frankly it disturbs me as much as the share price. Not surprising I bisit here infrequently. A handful of remarkably arrogant self-centred people. I hope the others stand up for what is right.
Baffle with figures and stick in the knives.
And lecture people.
I’m bound to get an arrogant , rude and self-aggrandising response.
I await it.
Investors are people. To err is human.
To criticise others is just plain self-centred.
Lots of ‘em about.
I encourage those suffering to tell them where to go.
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Still holding.
But I revise my “ hang on in there” to a further 365 days absolute minimum. Genuinely.
Unless DHSC dispute is resolved favourably.And this govt. has proved itself bothe corrupt and untrustworthy.. so if Nov. need to, they should take it to court. Dragging out too long.
To me, decent 2021 results with nothing terrible.
Market just wants to draw blood.Sell and take loss or hang in and wait until you are older. I will do the latter, considering the review is now public.
ATB

Sanguil.
I believe you. But my first degree was in Politics and German and I did study the KGB’s elite. He wasn’t Elite at the time. He got his black belt in judo and did what he was ordered to. He was definitely in E.Berlin when I was there as I remember reading about his activities. Maybe he was a hedonist above all, but he allegedly managed the demise of a few unpopulars. He hated Gorbachov and claimed that he gave away Russia and vowed to get the satellite states back. Parties or assassinations, the bloke is amoral..even psychotically so , it has been mooted. He has had so many people poisoned by strontium or Novachuk or just shot in the back of the head or had their plane diverted because of a “ bomb” etc etc. But Stalin. Kruschev, Breschnev, Andropov…probably just as bad. Remember the umbrella poisoning in the tube in London?? . Putin so clever though. He is doing more than testing Nato. He wants Ukrain. Firstly Donetsk in the East…and then little by little. But he is testing Nato and particularly the US. Trump might have threatened to nuke him.
Not funny, but………..Trump = unhinged.
France/Spain /UK/US all sen serious front-line arms to Kyiv today. I don’t see this as just a test. But hope it turns out to be. Putin loves to posture. But economically the Roosky stock market dived today and they will suffer hugely economically .
Putin knows all this. Wily fox.
I wish I had the funds to buy 4D.All in shares on a loss. I would snap up right now. Surprised not more shorters buying.
Robins. I feel for you. I am probably losing far more than you but the system has no barriers. I bought Trinity at £1.56 in 2014. They dropped to 1.6p in the 2015 oil crash. Imagine what I lost. I held Stobart just before covid. Thank goodness I sold. They own Southend Airport. Dropped 80%. Think they are Esken now. . I have many other shares I was in. RBS went to 10p. Lloyds 25p. Glencore 65p !!! Ocado 66p!! 4D’s drop is not uncommon. But it has been very fast!
But it is on the back of a holder of 13% relentlessy selling and shorters knowing it.
I am on a ridiculous monopoly-style loss all-round. It hurts like hell . But I have lost it all before and that’s a place I never want to revisit until my final letting-go :-)
But if Russia invade, watch the Dow plunge. Nasdaq already did today. I’m not sure about what oil will do as it is in such demand.Often goes up in crises.
Pharmas are untrendy right now. Ncyt …misery. 4D joke. But the market can crush share prices as they are just numbers. If there is a resolution to Russia and when SO runs out in June( assuming selling all) then watch 4D rerate. Probably. Can never really know. Me and you and Biker and a few others are on big losses. Mine is eye-watering. But lots can happen in a year.
I have so little left on paper it is laughable compared to a year ago!! Lost 70%. Not great investing. But they were all surprises. I was in SNG when it rocketed. Surprise too!
All for one and one for all mate!!

If that was really his own investment and not South Ocean Capital as a fund( ?) then it makes the selling more understandable.

For you guys on high numbers, I am on 91p with a vast amount down on this share. And every other bloody share today. I was waiting for Putin to find the right moment. Since Crimea. He wants his rx-satellite states back. Me…I can’t see him pulling back now. Germany was stupid enough to allow the gas pipeline from Russia. I saw it as stupid even then. Now they need the gas and Russia has them over a barrel.
This market plummet was in the making. Putin used to be a member of the KGB as an assassin when I went to Uni in Germany eary Eighties. He was in E Berlin when I visited. No morality. Utterly heartless. Even his wife left him for this reason. We will likely see the whole market pay for his obsession with redrawing Europe. I am amazed more did not see this coming. FDA may be concentrating on anti-nerve agents!! Not sure I really mean that!!
We are here for 4D not politics. Sorry. But they are entwined.

Dyl
I see it that way too.

Porky
Ticked that one up.
Especially because of the f’witt comment:-)
Oh so damn true.

Biker…I need a stampede of wildebeest , trust me!!!

Great top up time. No dosh:-(
Yes Ollie knew Jack sh** about Forte and paid the price. Readjusting fund portfolio.
Interesting re.T-cells.I studied them years ago. Back up to antibodies and usually do a good job unless they start attacking the host him/herself auto-immune).
0518 has similarities with SNG’s interferon-beta…used for cancer, copd complications and covid . If 0518 can re-kickstart t-cell exhaustion -if cause of tumour growth-well the implications are huge in medicine .
The stages that these things need to pass through to be permitted are so damn extensive though-as we are discovering.

Hmmm
I see 3 horsemen.

I think the stress has finally got to me.