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It sounds a little like you have a lot of eggs in one basket. Even for the likes of IAG, it is never 100% certain they won't go under, especially for 'technical accounting reasons' to protect creditors who are number one in the pecking order for handouts from the sales of assets. As a shareholder you are at the bottom of the pile. The current environment for an airline is not a good one.

should qualify, whilst you can fly OUT of the UK to any destination, the destination may not allow you in! Not sure on the legal position wrt to airlines denying boarding in the UK but I suspect there are arrangements in place to stop you getting on the aircraft in the first place.

You can fly to ANY zone. Travelling is no longer illegal. The classification system is relevant to the return leg and what you are required to do.

Not a yes or no question, as you know.

First, you wish to expose me to every individual returning from their holiday, whereas in the real world I would probably expect to be exposed to 2, 3 maybe 4 groups of friends over say two weeks, the equivalent of a quarantine period.
Second, if there is a concern of tracking possible carriers then there are more efficient means of identifying them with things like RFT, temperature and displaying symptoms at the airport. We can now see the excessive regime required for amber was not to protect public health, it was to act as a deterrent to people going on holiday.
Third, I would charge £50 per head hospitality so I doubt many would want to pay. I would also charge £300 for a PCR test as they arrive, another £300 whilst they sip the disgusting red wine from a plastic carton I serve up the charge another £300 for another PCR as they leave. I would also collect a final £50 valet fee for using the drive way to park their cars. Given the £1000 cost of visiting me, I doubt there would be many takers. Naturally I would throw the PCR test kits o a bonfire and not pay to have them processed.

So, the question is not so much would I yes/no have people come to my house after their holiday, it is more whether they would want to visit in the first place.

;)

Looks like Ireland is going to go against the commission unlock travel timetable along with a load of other EU states. At this rate, the only country actually following the EU unlock timetable will be the UK!

lockdown cometh again? really?

"Just 15 people test positive among nearly 60,000 who attended trial mass gatherings

Just 15 people tested positive for coronavirus among nearly 60,000 who attended trials of mass gatherings including the FA Cup final and the Brit Awards, official figures show, writes Sky's David Mercer."

Rattled? You've entered face saving mode Fugie, classic troll posting. I took everybody off filter since the tone in discussion had changed and the place seemed a bit more civilised. There are still a few here who would rather play the man than debate the issues raised. As for reading into posting 'style' or content, truth be know you wouldn't have a clue how to read the sentiment of other posters as you do not poses empathy, all your posts are for your own self-glorification.

""the only people traveling via cargo are illegal immigrants"

Illegal immigrants are now flying the planes? I did not know that."

I presume the thumbs up on that comment are from the pilots frequenting this board!!!!!

I'M A GIRL??

OMG??

That explains a few things though.

ha into debt, if only you had a small fraction of my resources you'd be hanging up your road sweeping brush and living off the interest. My day trading starting again this year is with some fun money to keep me amused during lockdown - more than you make in a year I bet. She's happy - she has a new sparkly bathroom out of it so far and I'm out of her hair.

"Simply divide by 7."

Below the belt TP. You know he is going to struggle with the maths. The answer FUgie is €173 per odd day and €176 per even day.

"the only people traveling via cargo are illegal immigrants"

Illegal immigrants are now flying the planes? I did not know that.

Here is the news piece from Sky, pasted below. It explains why the UK introduced a system that was supposed to deter travel, failed, and has had to be repositioned with an 'amber = no' message in order to keep our independent border policy in strict alignment with EU policy. This policy of operating with hands tied on the instructions of the commission is not going unnoticed out in the country, no matter how much the beep et al wants to keep it off the agenda. It is becoming a big off-record complaint and it is going to get harder and harder to impose the commissions' de facto UK border restrictions. People are booking, whatever. Look at how lockdown lobbiest chieftain PP has had to instruct the entire police force to threaten repeated knocks on the door to check you are complying with the law. That turns the fundamental principal of innocent until proven guilty on it's head. These numpties have turned from vacc heroes to lockdown zeros in a matter of a couple of weeks. This is police state stuff, knocking on doors checking compliance with whatever law. In the UK. All in the name of imposing the EU commission border policy on a country that is supposed to be independent of them. Anyway, I digress, the news story with dates for the diary;

"Deal reached for EU-wide COVID travel pass for summer holidays

The European Union has reached a deal on COVID certificates designed to open up tourism across the 27-nation bloc this summer.

The certificate will take the form of a QR code on a smartphone or paper, letting authorities determine the status of a visitor based on records in their home EU country.

It will show if a person has received a vaccine, had a recent negative test or had immunity based on recovery.

Politicians had wanted countries to commit to free testing for the certificate and said that no EU country should set additional quarantine requirements.

Germany and Sweden were among those resisting, officials said, though countries within the bloc in general are reluctant to give up their final say on border controls.

In the end, EU countries agreed to refrain from imposing additional restrictions, such as testing or quarantines, unless considered necessary on public health grounds, such as because of the rise of a new coronavirus variant.

The European Parliament is expected to pass a law in the week beginning 7 June for more than a dozen EU countries, including France and Spain, to test the system before a launch on 1 July.

The scheme also covers non-EU members of the border-free Schengen zone - Iceland, Liechtenstein, Norway and Switzerland - and is separate from plans to open up the European Union to vaccinated non-EU visitors.
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So no cargo flights, no road haulage through the ports, no repatriation of UK nationals, no diplomatic contact, no military rotations??? For the rest of the year??? Have you thought this through???

I don't know marab, I have been looking at flights and hotels - it is a very interesting place to visit. It's having to arrange sodding PCR tests which turns me off and the potential for 24 day queues at UK border control.

As for the opening up of EU travel, the islands are vaccinated and a lot of them totally covid free. More so than mainland Portugal. I had expected as matter of course the islands would have been the very first destinations opened up since the countries they are attached to have gone all out cleaning them up to get tourists in asap. The Germans don't seem to have issues with some of the islands. There is nothing logical about the green list. When the commission in Brussels signals to the embedded Europhiles in the UK to allow tourist travel, then suddenly the green list will be extended. It will have nothing to do with vaccination rates, variant spread or anything else as determined by the UK alone!

Inevitably the imposed restrictions on travel will have to be lifted, when is the question. My IAG is almost at break even so there is not a great deal of upside to take profits on compared to Easy Jet which has a much bigger scope for recovery. Given the inward looking philosophy of the Biden administration I think the transatlantic routes will open up much later than the European routes so I think a shuffle of shares from IAG to Easy J will be the order of the day, then next week a move all in from Easy J to IAG. Given the last week or two events, what could possibly go wrong?

10 mins in, practically no impact with ceasefire news.

Ergo, the decimation in sp is directly linked to the failed 'nudge theory' attempt to give the impression of ending travel lockdown whilst wanting to keep the borders closed. The lockdown lobby continues to dominate in Downing St and the entire policy of vaccination is now going to be put in jeopardy. We have had a very good take up in most areas. The reason was to allow a return to all pre-covid norms. But maintaining totally unnecessary travel restrictions simply leaves people asking why bother if nothing changes? A lot of people require the second dose. The vaccine program is extending into a much more sceptical demographic of younger people who are much more suspicious and harder to reach. How does the unnecessary travel restrictions help in persuading younger people to bother getting vaccinated? And for booster and urgent variant vaccination campaigns, why should people bother if there is no improvement to normal life? The consequences of this very real mess maybe extensive and long reaching for a long time ahead.

An exit strategy from the lockdown on travel is required within a day or two and put into practice at the latests next week. All compliance from the population will be lost otherwise.

We will find out in the first hour or so of trading what impact the Israel situation was having on the sp. There is nothing much else in the news to influence any abrupt changes in the sp.

beetroot, yes, can't wait to see the amber countries defined as red and 1000 nurses shown being turned away at the airport door. Another great day in government PR.

So if Iberia hits 60% by July, that's 60 fare paying passengers in the bag.

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