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Not really lil rod. Climate change isn’t an opinion, it’s all there to be seen & science just confirms it.

Oceans are heating up, polar ice is melting, highest global temperatures and ever increasing, these are actual facts.

There is a point where an opinion becomes a lie. I know these things are true, you know these things are true, therefore to deny them , is a big fat lie.

Oh dear how many times terraplank

In 2016 BT share priced was circa - £4.80 - £3.66

DB valuation was well below. The obvious point (you want to miss out, with petty interruptions) being the usual suspects decrying their valuations / direction of travel which turned out to be correct contrary to most others at the time.

In 2016, Deutsche Bank significantly reduced its valuation of BT Group (BT.A) shares, downgrading the stock from "Hold" to "Sell". They lowered their price target from 140p to 125p, citing concerns about "inflating risks" according to Bank of Scotland. This downgrade occurred despite the fact that BT's shares had already fallen to near the then-target price.

I remember when DB were calling share price as £1 when it was £3.50

Usual suspects mocked them then, they were right. It’s not the share price prediction it’s why they think it’s a possibility.

You didn’t read the post then.

I agree. Where are all the posting police all of a sudden?

Looks to me like they only want to police your posting habits.

Climate change is a scientific fact lil Rod, it’s just counting, when it comes down to it.

The rate of heating is the bit that surprises everyone interested in the subject.

Cleaning up industry and energy gives us a cleaner healthier environment, so what’s not to like?. Whether it will be enough to prevent a climate catastrophe, I don’t know? But I do know carrying on making it worse and worse definitely won’t.

There are a lot of lies and misinformation about China for this subject, what they are achieving is incredible.

Using investment to encourage cleaner behaviours seems like a good idea to me, so long as it’s not an invitation for corporate smoke and mirrors rather than real change.

It’s all projection lil Rod.

Look at that long winded banal post. Nothing to do with BT.

You should turn your attention to posters who only abuse other posters.

It’s public board, anyone is free to share their thoughts or opinions about the subject matter.

Hey lil Rod, up pops the resident gnat, desperately buzzing round recycling other posters insults, same as recycling other posters opinions, with only poison in mind (if you can call it that?)

Still, I guess some are born to follow, whilst others lead. This poster, in a way has become a little ying to your far greater Yang.

He follows your thoughtful well written posts with a far inferior and reduced opposites, I can’t remember last time anything about BT was mentioned, it’s nearly all about you?.

I suspect in the real world you would swat this little gnat, just another stain on the window pane.

Slightly worrying this same poster has begun following my lead, posting quotes from AI. I know it’s me, because I was the only poster doing it. However I posted useful accurate information about BT but this poster only uses it to enhance ann obsession with your thoughts.

Must be very difficult, never having a unique thought, relying on others to tell you what is next, needing to recycle insults, only turning up to bully and reinforce an obsession with others.

If science could cross a gnat, with a sheep, it could be a useful pro-noun.

Without a swat I guess this little ying to your far greater yang will continue. Nothing better to do than follow your lead with more unintelligible recycled insults, whilst you try to make sense of it all.

They must be those deplorables.

You’re entitled to share your thoughts and opinions without all this abuse. Some of them are showing signs of an unhealthy obsession.

They could choose not to read your posts or read and ignore, but they can’t. Instead they can’t help themselves. They boast & reaffirm their own insecurities, not with any class or humour.

None of them can think past what ever fleecy says, some will follow anything, even using AI and posting results like me.

Very sad sorry state of affairs if you ask me.

Well he seems to be able to use this board better than you.

Do you do anything other than follow others? Looks like you’re even following me now, using AI responses.

Still, I guess it’s better than the usual poison.

Oh my goodness, rummaging around, speculating & obsessed about someone else’s personal finances is soooo creepy.

Honestly, who do you people think you are? It’s so weird & so none of your business.

& BTW. Wealthy people don’t go on public boards to gob off about it, they really don’t.

Apart from anything else, why would they?

Those share prices would value BT over at over £110b lil Rod

If you have an old bridge for sale, there are posters on this board who would buy it!!!

In terms of revenue & growth BT is in decline, until something drastic happens, whereas RR has so much potential, a decision to rollout Lille nuclear power stations could change everything for example. There is nothing like that on the horizon for our investment.

This is why I like your plan, which releases value and reduces the chances of a service providers damaging BT by a thousand cuts, one at a time, as they are doing now.

Right now, best I can see is £30 to 40b with dept, selling bits of openreach to the competition (regardless of the obstacles) could halve that in a single stroke of a pen.

Having said that, previous CEO’ s managed to talk up the value to stepping £50B with promises of TV & a mobile company that was once number one and is now the smallest mobile operator in the UK…. (I think) behind O2, Vodafone / three.

There you go lil Rod, right on cue, no class, bragging and trying very hard.

Personal financial numbers are noone else’s business, or should be.

Fancy sharing that detail? No class.

Now now lil Rod.

General rule is we don’t tell people how to spend their hard earned (in most cases) or which strategy they must use.

This is exactly what you rail against, except they are telling you and everyone they should re-invest dividends blah blah blah (infinitum) whereas you are now doing same thing but on the opposite side of an argument, classy people should never be having.

You’re better than this, get back to your company strategy thinking

There is only one thing less classy than telling people how to invest their money & that is bragging about numbers / amounts.

Which of course is ridiculous, anyone of us could make up anything on this board.

In my opinion theee guys / gals are trying very hard to boast.

Yep I recognise that description well

Fleccy - I think it calls for some imagination.

If the will was there, pension deficit (which isn’t any where near the 2017 figure) could easily be paid off using part of the monies gained from selling parts of Openreach (with a 100 year network lease)

BT would do this, because it would end their need to carry on contributing

If the will was there literally no e of these issues cannot be worked round.

That’s the simple truth & that’s not speculation. The speculation is whether there is a will to do it, whether for so value, defend market share or just good business sense to generate value for their assets.

Too right lil Rod. Who’s going to tell him connectivity is Openreaches product ?

Which it sells to its customers (not retail)

Fleccy in response to below

“ As far as the doom and gloom scenario suggesting that BT/Openreach's wholesale customers might all jump ship, highly unlikely and if it did happen BT would just utilise the whole of the Openreach managed infrastructure to offer in house ISP services through the likes of Plusnet and EE and directly compete with any competition.”

It isn’t doom and gloom to consider threats and risks. IMO large scale service providers using openreach less or using their power to reduce prices is such.

I think back to EE and all the MVNO services they used to provide, now they don’t.

years of investment and associated dept could make openreach / BT vulnerable. The ideas discussed on this board are a way to think of something which could mitigate this risk, through sharing openreach across these service provides removing their temptation to do either. Maybe there are other ways? But reducing prices with dept and massive running costs cannot be it,

These service providers do. It need to move everything to cause damage, they only need to reduce their reliance on openreach to have an impact.

That’s all I’m saying, not doom and gloom, or anti BT just eyes wide open

Hey AI platform “do Openreach provide connectivity for mobile backhaul “

Yes, Openreach provides mobile backhaul services. They offer Ethernet-based solutions that connect mobile network operators' (MNOs) base stations to their core networks. This allows MNOs to transport data traffic from cell sites to their central network infrastructure.

Terraplant - “hey Fleccy those other guys don’t know what they are talking about, mobile backhaul is nothing whatsoever to do with openreach”. Or words to that effect …….

Apparently we are the fools who know nothing …….