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I think that you'll find that Exeter is -1 and Bristol is +1 otherwise I have the same.

Even monty5662 is complaining about the locations:

"Mind you if you cannot also I don't blame you because now it's becoming a real pain in the ass to count all the locations (and count all the restaurants) every day."

My brackets. It's easy enough to count the restaurants in London and Birmingham, etc - on the website anyway.

New location - Penarth +1

Where is Penarth you may say? Well, it has a CF postcode - Cardiff - and is within stone's throw or sight of Cardiff. Yes, there could be 2 restaurants under Cardiff and one less location.

Shareholders are not stupid. Not only is this proceeding at a pedestrian pace but the allocation of the restaurants to the locations is absolutely appalling. How this hasn't been spotted by Aidan I do not know. It looks like a joke and it is a joke. There are now 96 locations, having had another 3 added today. 83 out of the 96 have 5 or fewer restaurants. Okay so revenue doesn't count for now but they shouldn't be taking the p*ss.

https://www.britishbulls.com/SignalPage.aspx?lang=en&Ticker=DISH.L

This should read:

"This was a $100M or £77M valuation for 6000 restaurants. So for 3000 restaurants that would be £38.5M or 11p per share and for 1000 restaurants £12.8M and 3.70p per share."

New location - Doncaster +1.

Click on Chef and Brewer. Click on Prezzo. Click on Zizzi. There are hundreds of chain restaurants on these Apps/websites. Big Dish has a long, long way to go.

I'm thinking that the Tastecard valuation is certainly the best one to use here before people start going astray with silly valuations. This is the one Aidan used himself. It is also relevant because Big Dish have styled themselves more on the discount card companies rather than yield management.

This was a $100 mIllion valuation for 6000 restaurants. That's £77M for 3000 restaurants and that would be £38.5M or 11p per share and for 1000 restaurants £12.8M and 3.70p per share.

That is still quite a high valuation as the value increases as more restaurants are added to the platform and as there are more users. Also, that valuation already includes huge chains. If you look at the Gourmet Society App/website this shows all of the chains and how many restaurants there are in each.

Here is the link. For example click on the Pizza Express logo just below where it says "Save at over 6,000 restaurants..." and then scroll down and look at the list - it's huge.

https://www.gourmetsociety.co.uk/

I don't think the share price is going to do a lot here for a while. If it didn't increase when a 50 restaurant chain was added it is hardly likely to go up much when these start trickling on again. Maybe overpriced for now looking at the trades - or lack of them.

The broken website is at last fixed. It was fixed using the easiest option available which could have been done a week or two earlier when the location list was first exceeded by the number of locations.

What they have done is to get rid of the location list at the top which didn't scroll and add all the locations to the bottom of the page.

I cannot believe it took them so long to fix it. At least it works now.

New location - Huddersfield +1 - do we really need any new locations?

spero

My numbers. I think you said your count was 399 - not sure where we differ. One more has dropped off in Birmingham today but I won't include that until Monday.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1IT0rmMINzLSmbdEAUCwZ3jpK22tQ3C4-u6xbX-fj9nM/edit#gid=0

What I want to know before I risk too much money here is whether Big Dish is trying to be a yield management company or a discount card company.

I hadn't even come across any discount card operators until Table Now was mentioned here. I thought the card operators were dead in the water. Now I see they do the 50% and 25% discounts as well as the 2 for 1's and also the 30% discounts, presumably for those who don't want to do the higher discounts. They also sell discount cards and the diners effectively pay for the booking fee.

They also only offer Sunday to Thursday discounts, with none on special occasions or anytime in December. This is all about as bonkers and out-of-date as you could get.

Yield management offers a range of discounts from 50% to 10%, 7 days a week and 365 days a year subject to opening hours. This is up-to-date and sensible.

If you look at Discoeats, who do yield management, they have 106 restaurants in London and every single one is open for business today, tomorrow and every day, offering discounts to suit their business. There isn't one showing "No seats available" because they have given the restaurants the chance to lower the discount during their busier times.

Which are Big Dish doing?

If they are doing the discount cards they need to start selling card membership to the general public. If they are doing yield management they need to get rid of the "No seats available" as soon as possible. They are offering the same discounts as the card membership companies but not getting the huge revenue from selling membership.

They really are very, very mixed up.

monty5662

Perhaps as you get on so well with Aidan and Tom you could ask them why Birmingham has 27 out of the 47 restaurants showing as "No deals available" and Brighton has 14 out of 33 showing "No deals available" too.

I will be interested to hear the answer.

Yes, I apologize for banging on about the discounts. That isn't the problem here. It's all about getting the restaurants signed to the platform - unless Big Dish wants to be assigned to the dustbin of failed tech start-ups that quite simply never got off the ground.

But then I seem to remember bringing up the subject of sign-ups a few times in the last 18 months. In fact, more than a few times.

I can see now that the lack of revenue is because no-one is using the App to book seats.

The answer is still to sign up these damn restaurants as quickly as possible. It doesn't really work for the management here to inform the shareholders that Tom and his telesales team grew Table Now from 250 restaurants to 3000 in 6 months and not commit to doing the same here.

However with only 193 added in 2 months, of which 50 were in one chain, and with no other chained in sight or even trialing the App, then that Table Now target is disappearing fast.

Great news - the telesales team is costing less than expected. Actually it's garbage news because without a huge increase in the rate of acquisition of restaurants Big Dish is as good as finished.

A better approach would be to spend more money on more telesales persons. Get 15 or 20 in the team instead of preaching false economies. Big Dish has the funds anyway. They get them from the shareholders. Get the job done.

Yes, on thinking about it I agree that the size of the discounts in irrelevant as the problem is that there is obviously no-one booking seats with some of these restaurants through Big Dish. That would be while they are canceling their DD's and leaving.

Why stay listed on an App that only has a few hundred restaurants on the platform and that no-one has heard of. Tastecard and Gourmet Society both have 6000+ restaurant partners, including all of the big chains, Table Now has 3000 restaurants and Open Table at least 10,000 every day. These are household names compared to Big Dish.

Also, they can stay listed with the discount card companies as they don't have to worry about paying them the booking fee as the customer/diner is footing the bill. Why worry about the odd customer turning up through Big Dish and then having to send them a payment for £1. Seems a bit silly.

I was looking at this the wrong way round. It isn't the lack of range of discounts that is the problem but the lack of exposure of the App and the probably small number of customers being generated. If these restaurants were seeing lots of customers and taking lots of extra revenue then they would not delist.

The pedestrian pace of the telesales outfit is not helping here.

https://www.bigdishplc.com/team/

His name is Aidan not Aiden Bishop.

https://wildwoodrestaurants.co.uk/restaurants/all

There are 7 in Essex but only 4 are in Essex location and Loughton and Chelmsford have their own locations while Hornchurch hasn't been added yet.

"They'll be back" (dream on) like the Bristol restaurants - 40 signed and now just 8 (though monty keeps believing they are still around somewhere but then that's what Aidan told him once).

When the numbers here fell from 150 to 100 last year the restaurants didn't ever reappear. No, the only way the numbers got back to and passed 150 was with the addition of new restaurants.