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Could it be that the Provexis launch of Fruitflow +Nitric Oxide has been waiting for production if this product? A volume producer would be the ideal way of maximising gross profit per pack. Rhetorical question oif course, such details are not disclosed, but if our own product appears soon it would be a logical assumption. If users switch from the current product, no overall sales gain, but which is better O3 or NO as an additive to Fruitflow?

A perfectly reasonable, very brief and to the point, discussion on here about the addition of Amazon to the sales channels for Fruitflow +O3 is attacked in crude and offensive terms over on the other channel. Of course, attacks are not unusual, we've seen plenty. However, when the writer claims to have "life changing sums" involved, the logic of his argument falls down utterly. Of course anyone can sell anything on Amazon, and Provexis are selling Fruitflow +O3 on Amazon. Plain fact. How much they are selling isn't directly assessable, the point sphinx was making was that some activity raises the ranking position, which can surely only be a good thing. I hope it is in addition to the sales direct from the fruitflowplus online shop. The constant determined campaign over there to undermine the company is just infantile IMHO Change nappies and cheer up for pity's sake

Time to reflect on the passing of a fellow human being. What the market does, and who seeks to make a cynical gain, is of no interest. The business remains just the same, respects will be paid to the man. Sympathy to his family, and to Jay, for the loss of a close friend

Good info, thanks. Yet another indication that progress is being made, albeit Fruitflow +O3 is just one product. I wonder if Amazon is the avenue to the USA market?

Never mind, a good plastic surgeon could soon reduce your ears. Consider. When the market cap was that high, back in 09, what were investors buying in to? Fruitflow syrup, made in the lab in a totally uncommercial way. It had a patent, wording obscure and hard for consumers to grasp. Only available in Sirco, which was in the back reaches of some stores, but with zero public awareness that it existed, its producer seemingly unwilling to provide a marketing budget. And that's it, that's what you bought in to, no EFSA approval, no clear path to a global market. Talk about talks with majors, but the CC connection had already come and gone by then. But, on the basis of that, buyers of the shares decided that there was still upside from a market cap of tens of millions. Today. Globally available, Fruitflow powder giving infinitely more packaging options, marketing in many major markets, numerous nutraceutical brands in mainland Europe. More, and clearer, patents and health claims. Sphinx posted yesterday the Mussler submission giving more than a hint of a quasi medical future direction. Health professionals briefed by DSM and others right across the world, only the start of a long process, but a vital first step. We need the major brands. The company say they are coming, you, the cynic, don't believe them. I do.

Could easily give a list of future reasons to claim that the current mcap is low, but set against that is the past. Score draw at present IMHO

Isn't that an opinion clouded by naivety itself? DSMV are professional fund managers, therefore their duty is to their investors. I would submit that it was the naivety of PI's, who piled in and took the market cap to frankly impossible heights, giving initial investors the opportunity to recoup their stake and a good profit, whilst remaining as substantial holders. They could, in fact, have made a much bigger profit than they did, such was the frenzy of liquidity. That they didn't suggests that they recognised some responsibility towards Provexis. No, we gave them the opportunity, folks such as Princey and Pig, buying in at the top, blind to the risk. With the benefit of hindsight, were they wrong? Not a popular view, I admit, but MHO

Given that DSMV have been a major shareholder from the off, it is obvious that they saw the potential of Fruitflow early on. Yet another reason for fair to mean fair. Any way you try to slant it, a professional adviser would be liable if one party to a formal agreement was short changed. Maybe their motto is "We can't go on forever, with suspicious minds"

One post before I filter you, your agenda has always been to try and trick me in to getting banned. Current revenues, increasing by achievable percentages period on period, will cross the baseline. Simple enough for all to appreciate. Bye then.

Musing on this question, that's all any of us can do because the terms are confidential. Unless.. The worst scenario would change matters. In the hypothetical case that all was lost, the shareholders and creditors would then have a right to investigate the cause of the demise. If investigation disclosed that DSM had bullied Provexis out of true value, or if it was shown that the independent advice (my understanding is that a stockbroker company gave this) was misleading to the market, the quite obviously recourse could then be sought. A hypothesis, nothing more. I sincerely hope that there will be no need to see that scenario played out in reality. Provexis need a modest percentage increase in revenues to change the outlook here. I think it is happening.

On the contrary Pumpky, what I posted is published fact, you are making defamatory claims against several people. You have a deeply cynical mindset, sometimes it has its comical moments, are you still accusing Provexis of funding the hairdresser on the ground floor of their offices in Windsor? Doesn't the farcical nature of that claim, which you pursued with equal certainty to the present libellous accusations, make you pause before you put on record such actionable defamation? It should.

You are talking about a legal document which has been judged fair by an independent body, and that body would be liable to prosecution if they lied. Your sneers get close to defamation sometimes, be careful.

Very fair comment Wheelds. China market is changing so fast. the consumerist population already exceeds Europe. Their large companies have immense commercial strength. Will they come for Provexis, or DSM ? There's no trading indication at the moment IMHO

Yes, but any offer would be to PI's essentially, so would have to go to an EGM and be voted on. As you say, it would have to be substantial to interest DSM. It's a moot point, but trading activity doesn't support the theory. Wishful thinking perhaps, nothing wrong with that, musing about the multiples a holder with a low average could make is a pleasant pastime.

The discussion on red is noted. Have to say Wheelds, I don't agree. To follow that strategy, and go from no notified holding to gaining control, they would surely need to be accumulating available shares. They're not, nobody is. That's not to say it isn't a possibility in future, who knows? The influence of Chinese business strength is being felt in all areas of the world.

Took all of 15 seconds to look up the fact that Mr Buck supported that placing. Worth the time to disprove the fake news.

The Company's annual report and accounts were distributed to shareholders on 7 September 2016, hence the announcement today confirming that Dawson Buck's stated intention to subscribe to 10,416,667 shares at 0.24p per share totalling �25,000 has been realised. The total funds raised from the placing with new and existing investors announced on 2 August 2016 and the placing with Dawson Buck announced today amount to �249,000 with no commissions or expenses payable. The funds raised will be used to provide the Company with additional working capital over the coming year, to include the working capital required to hold stock of the Company's Fruitflow� + Omega-3 dietary supplement product which was launched online at www.fruitflowplus.com on 29 June 2016.

DSM are responsible for total world marketing Colby, why are you ignoring that to support your agenda aimed at leaving Provexis as a deserted, rudderless ship? We had very high support for the last two fund raisings, fact. Could it be that the main players behind that have a different strategy to your own? After all, you have sold most of yours, demonstrating that your mindset is opposite to theirs.

Doesn't matter what I think. Director pay is contentious across the whole market, they've benchmarked themselves up. One is the founder of the company, the man who brought Fruitflow to Provexis. And yet some holders of frankly piffling percentages of the company want to show their gratitude by removing him. The other is the continuity of contact with every important aspect of Provexis's existence. There is nobody above or below them who could replace them. Even the very sad loss of the DSM appointed director gives emphasis to the key importance of our minimal BoD. In straight terms, if you want to influence the direction of a company you own shares in, you have to control enough of the shares to assert that influence. If you own a fraction of one per cent, all the posturing in the world get you nowhere. Fact

The no news periods always bring out the worst aspects of the AIM market. The recently re banned poster is still agitating for a change of company personnel, though with no answer regarding who would do the recruitment. A ludicrous proposal. Also suggesting a breach of the legal document which gives globals the assurance that any plans are kept strictly confidential. Suicidal. I fully agree Wheelds, risk, of course, potential rewards enhanced rather than diminished. Congrats on your increased holding.