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Hi all, bought in a month ago, drawn in by the divvy and the low sp.
I normally dabble in aim and don't have the patience to wait for divvy , or they don't exist!
so when is the next ex divvy date and when is the next divvy paid
Sorry, i must sound like a right divvy!!
Pom
its really difficult to find real dividend info for free, that's the last 12 months dividend payments as a percentage of todays price, and the same except using the next expected divi, and dates xd and paid.
The best I've found so far (for free) id dividendmax
Anyone else got a better one?
What aim shares are you going to make on, ..... so many have a ceo with minimal holdings bought with their own salary, earning 150 to 500k a year using the company as gravy train. and often not updating shareholders. Exception maybe be ggp gold. .. aau ? casp ?
Problem with the divi is outside isa or pension TAX !!!!
Vod appears to have broken its downtrend now, 25 years ago its share price was 230 !!!!!!
Since ive got rid most aim cos the big blue chips now held .. vod aviva lgen glaxo haleon etc are way less volatile, gently climbing, and throw off 8 pc a year. vod is just below 10% on past figs.
Vod is my biggest holding by far & I believe we are all onto a winner at these crazy low prices, I got a feeling vod is going to do a RR & M&S rise. I was holding RR & sold out way too early & that’s not happening with Vod. I think £1.40 to £1.60 is possible & picking up a healthy divi while it gets to my target GLA
Thanks Guys, sounds like were singing from the same sheet.
Got so burnt on aim, sitting on a 65 bagger.... yeah gkp.
now have a few gkp at £1.46, some gmr at 28p (interesting play) but mainly Vod.
my portfolio now is over half in high interest accounts, 1/3 with an investment company and the rest in the above .
i'm 67 now and want to sleep easy at night.
Pom
As my last post i hope you find a better source of info on dividends (free) than dividend max.
Vod SHOULD !!!!! be better than high interest accounts as a rising divi beats inflation, and rising share price helpful.
In addition to holding vod et all I would like to hold uk guilts where the gain is mainly capital gain.. this info is also difficult to find.
We are lucky to have vod at this price to add, If it does drop to silly price it may well get taken out, if it goes up the divi will become high/normal.
Only thing I can think of doing better than vod is to pick a share with RISING divi, but im not getting rid of vod 9.7pc div for that.
I got ggp aau for high risk multibag as well.
Hi Pom,
For Dividend data that is free (and I find accurate and up to date) try dividenddata.co.uk.
Yahoo Finance will give a crude 'Forward dividend & yield' but I am sure there are better ones - just cannot recall at present. I find best approach to Div yield anyway is to work out for myself as Dividend Yield for you depends on your purchase price, not current price!
cheers
Well you shouldn't appraise your financials using your purchase price. Should use current SP, what return can you get in comparison if you sold up today and invested elsewhere, not to then compare it against what you bought it at
Beo. I totally dissagree. You should always base your yield on your average purchase price, unless you want to delude yourself. Of course if you are buying today, thinking of selling, or just comparing, then that is different.
Have to agree to disagree. I rent out houses too and its similar to that. Why base my yield on the purchase price of £50k and delude myself I'm getting a good return when in essence the house is now worth £100k and my income has stayed the same, I'm now getting half the yield and its this lower Yield I would compare against to other forms of investment with regards how good it is. Any form of investment appraisal would look at the net realisable value now and compare that against alternatives. Don't get me wrong, in the case of analysing your overall return on a share you would your the purchase price and cum dividend's to work out your ROI, but in terms of go forward returns, no you shouldn't use an historical purchase price
I look at the yield of a company I hold at todays price and the price I brought them at, then see the valve it is at and check to see if I brought another company (Taking into account the cost of buying) what yield I would get with that company. Everyone has different views and ideas and I like to heard other people views as long as they are not like Porsche.
Brought a few thousand this morning at 5.15, why is the price so low after what everybody said was a good report.
Porsche if you do read this you never got back to me with list of good UK companies to in vest in
Sorry wrong site should have been on PHNX, Doesn't take much to confuse me happens to a lot of people in their 70
does porsche have anything good to say about any shares? seems to be on a couple of threads ****ging them off
Landlords are the worst kind of scum ain't they.
They is similar to ticks and tapeworms.
Beo, years ago i was in house rental, its a really really good way to long term save.. except when you sell , you pay 40% cap gains tax in one go in one year... not even yearly allowance against it .. thats not fair for you.
vod, an amazing time co add cause you can buy a share that whilst not at bottom must be near it, blue chip, high divi, a chance of huge rerate one day ( chance1) 230 many years ago, low 70 now 80
Now ive got the big stable ones in place im looking for a couple which could ten bag with risk. maybe ggp caspian sunrise arianna or uranium etf
and a way out of tax on fab ulous vod 9.7pc dividends. could a n accumalation fund holding vod be better.....
Beo. So are you saying the value of your rental house has doubled, but the rent you charge has stayed the same? If so, I think you need to put the rent up. Also if you compare the vod sp with house prices, house prices have doubled in the time that the vod sp has halved , approx. so should not be compared. If I bought vod today the divi yield on my investment would be about 9%. If then the sp falls to half what it is now, 40p approx, & the divi stays the same, my investment divi yield would still be 9%, but the divi yield at the lower price would be double that,18% so only aplies to new investors, not those who bought at the higher price. But thanks for your input, & we will agree to dissagree. Cheers.
Porsches PUTS will be in big doo doo by now.
So the figures i gave was to illustate the example using simple maths. double the value, half the yield. But yes the house i rent has gone from £70k to about £110k but i have had one person renting all that time in a non affluent area so i have only increased the rent once since i bought it, but still achieve the yield in excess of 7% so I'm happy, especially as my Return on Equity is much higher than that. But whenever I make financial appraisals on my investments its on my current value as its that current value that i can utilise in other ways, not the value when i first bought the asset.
Also for the other poster, you do get an annual capital gains allowance, and the house is in mine and my wifes name, so we get that x2
Although there no way I would describe landlords as scum, I do think those who buy to rent have destroyed the chances many young people have of affording to buy there own house, so are forced to rent, or just stay at home with there parents, pushing house prices even higher. Not just bad for young people, but also for there parents, some who feel pressured to help them out.
Their, not there. In case the spelling police are around! Shame about the finish today.
Good evening GS
"Landlords are the worst kind of scum ain't they."
I think Carltt has copyright on this nonsense.
ATB :-)
I is aware of Carltt
DAN, I agree about basing the yields on your average, but what matters more than anything of course is the total returns, share price still looking good, another push up a bit later would be nice
Hi danielh - look on the Lloyds board and all will become clear! Cheers