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I cannot. see it rising. much above. this level in the. short/medium term. Unless, of. course, China changes its· covid policy WEE must also bear in mind. that the dividend will be quite a bit less this year.
Morning Ladies/Gents
Any thoughts on the turn around on sentiment here over the last couple of weeks?
Hope your all well, healthy and prospering!
RIO back in the £50 range again, should do well over the near term, imo
GLA LTH
I thought this might pull back a bit after Friday so happy we’ve maintained the increase.
Rio and BHP in Oz are off to a good start.
Hopefully the same in uk Monday morning.
Expecting all metals to drop imho
Rio SP is tethered to China indices, Hang Seng etc. Any good news from China will boost the RIO sp. China is out of favour at the moment and has been hammered. But may turn the corner.
Is it actually covid that they are locking down or CCP
unrest?
It’s weird because it’s doing untold damage
to their own supply chains , I spoke with a friend who works in a Chinese powdered milk factory in New Zealand ( Yili ) normally everything is sent to China , but it’s a proper fiasco at the moment.
China will stay the course on coranavirus restrictions and stick to its zero-COVID policy, health officials said on Saturday amid fresh outbreaks of the virus in the country.
Asked whether a policy change is to be expected in the near term, Hu said that China would “adhere to the principle of putting people and lives first, and the broader strategy of preventing imports from outside and internal rebounds.” imho
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.eu/article/china-maintain-zero-covid-policy/amp/
It was China markets driving the rally on possible relaxation of ccovid zero policy speculation and rumours. Now that rumours are ironed out following confirmation by the health Secretary today in China with zero covid policy is here to stay as lives comes first. This could reverse on Monday imho. Market was pricing in the relexation news which frankly had cold water thrown over today...imho
Should have added that the report was published on Wednesday, so the market was slow to react but there were no doubt other drivers of Friday's rally.
China never said they would relax their covid zero policy. A state-run newspaper said that local officials are being warned against excessively harsh measures to control COVID-19. And some thought that it hinted at a relaxation of the policy, maybe within the next year. However, the same report also said China was still unswervingly adhering to the dynamic zero-COVID strategy by preventing the import of cases and internal rebounds.
Zero covid policy to stay imho
https://www.google.com/amp/s/uk.finance.yahoo.com/amphtml/news/china-doubles-down-zero-covid-092554607.html
Exactly Wolf
Not just the mining sector but businesses that generate a large portion of their income from Asia
Prudential in the insurance sector
hsbA in the banking and so on. Must admit, did look at Prudential when they dipped below £8 but the dividend went against my strategy.
Morning Fromage, not my only share and not my only sector. It did cross my mind once £51.05 was reached but then what to do? I think I’ll stay on the ride for a while longer yet. May not be as exciting but hopefully still fun.
Up and down on the merry go round hey
Have a happy and healthy weekend
This is a lively surprise. What has caused it though. I heard something on the radio about China potentially removing COVID restrictions.
> but who would of called this rise in mining sector today ...
Many people I expect. BAE has served me well, but I sold out near the end of last month to pile into mining.
Of course dividends, and their return expressed as a percentage, depend upon when you buy and sell. But the crucial thing is your overall return. Simply record your investment pot value "A" (current shares value plus any dividend or other cash retained in the account) at the start of the month, and at the start of the next month record it again "B", work out the net value "C" you have added into the pot during the month (may be negative), and your return for the month is (B-C)/A. Keep a record of the individual month's percentage return, then multiply them together over any period for your total return. That is what counts.
Crossley, yes yours is currently 12.7 if that is the only share you own, but what goes up comes down!
Eccles, but that method of calculation does not have much meaning in terms of impact on your finances as it ignores the number of shares you have, nor the share price change, and they are not additive across different shares.
Very amusing Mr Maths ....got it well wrong..but who would of called this rise in mining sector today ...
all i can fire back is at least , shares held in profit went up .....stratagies....good for you for holding Atb
That's a clever person right there ;) someone who gets it!
Surely dividend is personal. I hopped on last Friday @ £45.30 (glad I did) so to me personally it’s 12.7%?
Hi Gwm Yield calcs depend on your particular definition and people vary in their "definitions". Personally I say how much have i received in calendar year to date and in the case of RIO it is £5.75 per share. Divide that by current SP of £51 near enough and you get 11.3%. But others instead use the the company's financial year which I don't rate because the number of people who buy their shares on the start date of the company's year must be very few.
"Time to cash out here "
Up more than 9% today, and still not time to cash out. Still a good time to invest. Much further to go over the next few months.
@gwm : I was not talking about dividend but capital growth. Some people seem to think dividend return is everything, but your return is the dividend % you actually receive for the shares you own and the period you have owned them for, plus the percentage gain in the share price. If you bought RIO late yesterday and sold right now you have a capital gain of 6% and no dividend. You have therefore gained in a day what a savings account will give you in a year. 6% and your money back.
Of course timing is the key for that extreme case, but I am a long term holder in most cases, years or months. Over the last 5 years (up the end of Sep as I do not keep monthly records for more than a year, just retaining the quarter figures), RPI over 5 years has been 26% and my share return has been 45%. This is calculated month by month, monthly return based on asset value gain + money out(eg pension withdrawal) - money in.)
Actual share names have been varied, starting with a portfolio of classic dividend payers and moving to now 80% of portfolio being mining. Always had RIO, always will, quantities varying as you decide to move money around. TGA and GLEN have done well after I decided to move heavily into coal at the right time (thanks to Greta), but I have taken a big hit on Gazprom and Norilsk nickel with the reaction to the Ukraine war.
fromage
"5pc return from rio".. here at todays price the dividend is shown as 10pc.. is it wrong?
u need to put money into something that will return more than RPI, not less. That should be your target, and is more than achievable.
May we know how!! Share names please
I would say you need to keep a little cash handy and I do, not earning enough interest to keep up with inflation of course but you cannot win all of the time. Inflation has been low for many years and stock investments over that time have massively outperformed inflation at 0-2%. Now the boot is on the other foot a bit and some cash gives you some buffer when things turn ugly on the stock market you can take advantage.
Also High yields are far from guaranteed, as they are mostly relating to last years declared dividends on the current depressed share prices. BOE yesterday painted a pretty grim picture for UK going forward, not that RIO should be affected much by that of course but things maybe not so rosy worldwide.