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"To be marketed in China, vitamin and dietary supplement products must currently fit into health function measures. But local authorities in China are planning new regulations that allow the assessment of new functions.
Building on its years of research, BYHEALTH hopes to take advantage of this opportunity and register new categories of dietary supplement properties, Liang says. For example, the company is working with the Institute of Chinese Materia Medica at China Academy of Chinese Medical Sciences to study the effects of water-soluble tomato concentrate on the properties of blood in mice."
https://www.nature.com/articles/d42473-023-00164-y
Just had a call from Simply Supplements saying that the blood pressure formula was in stock again and asking if I would like to resume my previous repeat order. I asked about the ingredients and the caller explained that the "expensive" Fruitflow has indeed been removed. I declined to renew as I now have a repeat order elsewhere.
p.s. I never actually cancelled the previous order with them, but assumed they had cancelled it when they ran out, as I could no longer see details of it online. I think I only received a call just now because my old credit card had expired and he wanted me to update the payment method, otherwise they might just have dispatched some of the new formula and I would not have been pleased.
They should not be making the health claim now.
Can’t find ff+ omega 3 on Amazon either ,what is going on !
Not looked closely but looks like ff been substituted with pine bark.
Stomach upsets and headache
https://www.versusarthritis.org/about-arthritis/complementary-and-alternative-treatments/types-of-complementary-treatments/pine-bark-extracts/#:~:text=No%20major%20side%2Deffects%20have,been%20reported%20in%20some%20RCTs
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Looks like it (well spotted)
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Cannot see FF in the ingredients
Wellsite, have they taken the Fruitflow out of it?
Gixer
we all appreciate keeping morale up during the last few months...... as alf said it wasn't enjoyable
I think we are due an update very soon as we have clearly turned a corner
Some very good news indeed today. Simplysupplements blood pressure formula is back in stock -
look at the price !!!
That's 26p a day, £7.50 a month
https://www.simplysupplements.co.uk/blood-pressure-formula?utm_source=awin_heart&utm_medium=ctc&utm_campaign=2023-06-16&sku=e116&awc=5959_1686916647_84ab6606430df9ed17746eb2d949e179
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Just to add to my post from yesterday with reference to the post from tootight.
Re: "I know the tests started a while back,but 2017 and we are still without the holy grail paperwork"
This press release from By-Health explains the situation a bit.
"BY-HEALTH has been actively innovating in new raw materials, new functions and new technologies through continuous promotion of scientific nutrition strategy, and at the same time committed to the development of products with new functions. The discovery of this new mechanism further unraveled the mystery of Qingluosu" (Fruitflow)", and provided more new ideas for its functional transformation and product landing. With the deepening of scientific research, it is expected to bring more health products with scientific and technological content to the public in the future."
https://www-prnasia-com.translate.goog/story/376755-1.shtml?_x_tr_sl=auto&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_hl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp
http://www.by-health.com/news-4588
Need to understand German for this one.
"In this podcast we talk about ways to keep your cardiovascular system healthy. dr Mathias Oldhaver, naturopath, health journalist and health expert at Dr. Wolz Zell GmbH answers the following questions from Simone Walther Büel:
- Can you explain to us why cardiovascular diseases are so common in our country? 1:27
- Actually, we all know that these factors that you've just mentioned are unhealthy for us. How can we get out of these harmful habits in everyday life? Do you have any tips? 2:53
- Very important for a healthy cardiovascular system is that our blood vessels remain elastic and blood can circulate freely. Secondary plant substances from fruit and vegetables make an important contribution to this. Can you tell us more about that? 4:17
- Now I can't eat tomatoes and red grapes in huge amounts every day. How can I still use the positive properties of these secondary plant substances? 6:16
- And for whom is it particularly useful to use such a dietary supplement? 6:59"
https://soundcloud.com/ebi-pharm-ag/thromboflow?in=ebi-pharm-ag/sets/ebi-podcasts&utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=post&utm_campaign=social_sharing
https://www.ebi-pharm.ch/wissen/ebi-aktuell/thromboflow-ebi-podcast
By-Health were initially going to launch a product back in 2017.
They then decided to go for Blue Cap and more studies were needed as regulations in China for suppliments changed and got tighter. Finally, probably due to good study results, By-Health decided they wanted to apply for a new health claim that would better suit Fruitflow (and give a better return) on the health claim register. Each step requiring more studies to pass the regulatory hurdles.
As Dr_H says, applying for a new health claim is a new process so we have no idea on timescales.
FF as a drug could well be the next step but lets hope we start seeing revenue before then.
Also worth noting is that as far as we are aware, the process to add additional health claims does not yet exist. It is a new process and the draft was released last year for industry comment. BH will likely be the first to add a new health claim. I think BH have been working with SAMR to create the process and will lead the way. I recall BH signed a contract with SAMR to help with processes and standards. That probably covers the health claims area, but there was little detail available on it.
There was initially 6 trials, then it was 9, then it became 8. As far as we are aware, all the background research is now completed.
It may well do, but when does that thought process stop, it may continue from 2017 until it becomes irrelevant, FF has been around a long time with many proven health benefits, do we need or require any more. Would much rather have finished got the paperwork and moved forward, further health claims working in tandem as selling ramps up.
I'd have thought it demonstrates a thought process, where answers in one trial lead to a further trial, developing the health benefit claims. If the first ones weren't successful then the more recent ones would never have been launched IMHO
I know the tests started a while back,but 2017 and we are still without the holy grail paperwork, no wonder we are where we are.
I thought I would make a list of the 8 registered trials (that we know about) in China in order of date.
ChiCTR-POR-17012927 Date of Registration 2017-10-10
Human intervention study on dietary intake of water-soluble tomato extract
https://www.chictr.org.cn/showprojEN.html?proj=22104
ChiCTR1800015987 Date of Registration 2018/05/04
Investigation of the Anti-hypertensive Role of Specific Plant Extracts in Hypertenison Patients
https://www.chictr.org.cn/showprojEN.html?proj=27048
ChiCTR2000034647 Date of Registration 2020/07/13
Effect of combination of Fruitflow and aspirin on platelet function and endothelial cells
https://www.chictr.org.cn/showprojEN.html?proj=56370
ChiCTR2000040559 Date of Registration 2020/12/02
Water-soluble tomato extract improves platelet function in subjects with metabolic syndrome: a randomized clinical trial
https://www.chictr.org.cn/showprojEN.html?proj=64530
ChiCTR2100048885 Date of Registration 2021/07/19
The trial of Xinluosu Tablets effects on human platelet aggregation function
https://www.chictr.org.cn/showprojEN.html?proj=130349
ChiCTR2100054361 Date of Registration 2021/12/15
A human experimental study on the effect of Thomson Beijian Xinluosu Tablets on platelet aggregation function
https://www.chictr.org.cn/showprojEN.html?proj=129186
ChiCTR2300068286 Date of Registration 2023/02/14
Human Trial Effect Evaluation of Xinluosu Tablets in Helping to Maintain Normal Platelet Aggregation Function and Beneficial to Blood Flow Health Function
https://www.chictr.org.cn/showprojEN.html?proj=184552
ChiCTR2300068360 Date of Registration 2023/02/16
Study on the effect of water-soluble tomato concentrate combined with red yeast rice on blood lipid levels in subjects with dyslipidemia
https://www.chictr.org.cn/showprojEN.html?proj=184849
Is this one still going!? I remember being in this before the 22p spike, many moons ago…whilst being run by Moon before he wangled his way to using PXS to take over SIS then splitting the companies and dumping PXS! Another share which has always been about getting out with a profit before you get screwed! Good old fruitflow and DSM!
The date above the photo is 12th May 2022, !
I get that Wellsite but why not update the page with the team as it is now?
Team DSM-Firmenich not Team DSM
Gix
yes, but point is the website has only recently been updated to reflect this
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Wellsite, Re: "Now Team DSM (not Sunweb)"
Team DSM is now Team dsm-firmenich with a new kit to match.
https://www.team-dsm.com/tdsmf-launch-pics/
As is the company.
https://www.dsm.com/corporate/investors/dsm-firmenich.html
https://www.dsm-firmenich.com/corporate/home.html
Yeh there has been a large rise in excess deaths in all major countries amongst all age groups in the last couple of years, with CVD being one of the main driving factors. Watch a bit of John Campbell on YouTube for details.
Looks like the website has had a refresh. Now Team DSM (not Sunweb), a doctor with far eastern features (not sure if I can say that)
https://www.fruitflowplus.com/category/news/
google land says a significant increase in blood clot related deaths atm
stay safe
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